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Old 06-23-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Are you suggesting that bees are not essential? Yes, the article is about captive bees but what does that have to do with wild hives and the importance of bees??? Both are important.

No that is not what I'm saying....

Everyone knows bees are very essential, it's just amazing to me that there are other things in the United States going on right now, which is much worse, and nobody knows that accountability of the "other than captive bees" population.

Or are you and everyone else saying that only captive bees pollinate......

 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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No that is not what I'm saying....

Everyone knows bees are very essential, it's just amazing to me that there are other things in the United States going on right now, which is much worse, and nobody knows that accountability of the "other than captive bees" population.

Or are you and everyone else saying that only captive bees pollinate......
How would you track down these wild hives? Only an estimation could be done.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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How would you track down these wild hives? Only an estimation could be done.
Thanks for proving my point...this is why the article is about captive bee hives...notice they did not mention anything else...
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes because we all know that a "task force" is all it takes to save the world.
We'll just wait and see what this "task force" will come up with.

Hey..maybe Obama can use the Jobs Committee he formed that did nothing.
And your idea of sitting on your hands is better?
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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This bottom of the barrel president has not gotten to the bottom of anything he said he would...Fast & Furious,IRS,NSA,AP,VA,Benghasi what makes you believe he is up to the task?
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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You understand they are only talking about captive bee hives, right....

Until you can provide how many bee hives are in the wild...then you have no point....
...Have you read the actual research on the subject?

Not just the OP article, but the actual research.

It is scary.

Very scary.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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Thanks for proving my point...this is why the article is about captive bee hives...notice they did not mention anything else...
Except for where it said that "honey bees, monarch butterflies and other pollinators are dwindling" across the world. That would include non-captive pollinators as well. Yeah, except for that.

But of course, we should all relax and put our faith in your vast expertise on the subject instead.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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...Have you read the actual research on the subject?

Not just the OP article, but the actual research.

It is scary.

Very scary.
Then the OP should have provided something other and or more info, I know just a little....
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How would you track down these wild hives? Only an estimation could be done.
You can't. Estimation based on what though ?

There's no data to back this up except by counting captive hives which are decreasing because the number of beekeepers are decreasing.


A government researcher commented on this study.."just because you didn't find extinction doesn't mean it's not happening".

Hive and Seek: Domestic Honeybees Keep Disappearing, but Are Their Wild Cousins in Trouble, Too? [Slide Show] - Scientific American
A new paper, published in the Journal of the Kansas Entomological Society, offers a ray of hope for native bee species. In this research, Droege and his colleagues compiled a list of 770 species that are historically native to the eastern U.S. They sent this list to a network of bee experts, asking them to note which species they had found within the past 20 years. The survey revealed that 95 percent of the bee species that lived 150 years ago have not gone extinct. Thirty-seven species were nowhere to be found, but the researchers pointed out that those bees had been rare to begin with and were often subject to taxonomic confusion.
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John Ascher, an invertebrate zoologist at the American Museum of Natural History (AMNH), agreed. He wrote in an e-mail that "we don't even know what native bees exist, as many remain undescribed or unidentifiable. Nor do we know where they live, as even state lists remain highly incomplete despite our best efforts…. As to how the bees are doing—we know even less."
 
Old 06-23-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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Once we figure out whats killing the bees, lets use it on roaches and fire ants.
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