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Old 06-25-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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Yeah, I do.

The Democrats actually supported Lieberman, until he lost in the primary.
Those for the return of our freedoms support booting Cochran. I agree with them.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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Many democrats supported invading Iraq. Do we have to remind you again?
Yeah...The idiots. Which is exactly what you had to be to support it.

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It's called standing up for principles and not going with the status quo so your "team" wins.

The core TEA Party principles are reducing the debt, reducing waste, limiting the federal government to the powers given it by the Constitution and securing the borders.

I guess that if you want to continue bloating out the debt, wasting money, having the government run more of your life and allowing essentially open borders, well, you definitely shouldn't like the TEA Party.
Principles with no power?

Good luck with that.
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To You maybe. So the GOP would rather have a left wing wack job than a conservative like Cuccinelli? Well maybe we would rather have one too instead of Cochran.
Cuccinelli really is a wacko.

Cochran isn't.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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No...You're all wrong.

It's been the lack of compromise that got us here.

You really think that 100 fanatics in the Senate will fix this country?
Lack of compromise on Obama's part you mean...you are so full of it just like Barry.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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Cuccinelli really is a wacko.

Cochran isn't.
Making the same mistake over and over and expecting different results if the definition of a wacko. Unless your position is Cochrans goal is the stripping of our rights.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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I don't think the OP knows what the nuclear option is...
There are many different nuclear options. Of course I know Senate rules change one. You are soo smart.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It's sad that you would call those who complain about our loss of freedoms as fanatics.
Not all anti status quo options should be taken. Your problem is given the pithy TP support, the vast majority of Amercans reject it. That doesn't mean they will not support other ideas rather than those traditional paths have offered, but they won't accept yours.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:34 PM
 
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Not all anti status quo options should be taken. Your problem is given the pithy TP support, the vast majority of Amercans reject it. That doesn't mean they will not support other ideas rather than those traditional paths have offered, but they won't accept yours.
I don't base my opinions on what others support.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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It's called standing up for principles and not going with the status quo so your "team" wins.

The core TEA Party principles are reducing the debt, reducing waste, limiting the federal government to the powers given it by the Constitution and securing the borders.
This may be true on the surface but there is a much deeper element to the Tea Party that is very apparent. Make no mistake about it, it's not about limiting the federal government when many of the candidates run on a platform of violating the First Amendment by injecting prayer in schools. It's not about securing borders if all you're really trying to do is keep brown people from getting jobs. Reducing debt is fine but not to the point where our roads and bridges look less like a civilized country and more like the ones in Kandahar. Or, sick people just die because though they're guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, healthcare has nothing to do with any of those.

Every Tea Party candidate I've seen has lamented or claimed the need to take away things like food stamps (something interestingly comprised of non-milk colored people), the desire to bring America back to its roots - like the claim that the 1950's was so great despite its higher crime rates per capita, taxes on 90% of the population, and forced prayer in public schools.

And through all of the thinly veiled racism there is a thin layer of violence underneath it all too. Polling for the Sons of the Confederacy, a group of rednecks who dress up and play Civil War like its 1863 again, all while fantasizing about revolting from the federal government seem to wholesomely embrace the Tea Party ideals. Undoubtedly, the libertarian doublespeak of the Tea Party targets groups of people who hate the federal government for one reason or another. Make no mistake about it. The Tea Party is not about limiting the federal government, debt, or any of those other ideas it seems to push. It's just about redirecting what the federal government is doing while maintaining the status quo and punishing brown people.

Sure, it may take food stamps away to save a buck, but it'll reinvest that money into a more massive military - something the largest military spending country on the planet wholesomely needs. When the largest lot of these people believe the Earth was created in its current form 6,000 years ago, we should all reject everything they have to say as incredulous morons who like to think they're actually doing something good.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Not all anti status quo options should be taken. Your problem is given the pithy TP support, the vast majority of Amercans reject it. That doesn't mean they will not support other ideas rather than those traditional paths have offered, but they won't accept yours.
The majority of Americans think the GOP is a conservative party. After all they speak like they are. In reality most of the GOP have very few differences from the democrats. If Americans were better informed they would agree more with the Tea Party. It is difficult when you have the left wing media distorting the values of the Tea Party.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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Principles with no power?

Good luck with that.
Power with no principles?

Yeah, that worked out great if you were Stalin or Hitler, but no so well for others.
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