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Old 06-25-2014, 04:46 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I'm not sure how many states are currently doing this, but I do know that Calif made a big deal about it several years ago when they were rolling it out. In these situations, the State is paying a salary for someone to take care of their mother/father/son/dtr/partner/husband/wife. Should tax dollars be used for this or should someone care for their loved one without monetary comp simply because it is the right thing to do?
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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I'm not sure how many states are currently doing this, but I do know that Calif made a big deal about it several years ago when they were rolling it out. In these situations, the State is paying a salary for someone to take care of their mother/father/son/dtr/partner/husband/wife. Should tax dollars be used for this or should someone care for their loved one without monetary comp simply because it is the right thing to do?
Many people must give up their employment to care of family members and have no income other than what little they receive from the state.
I know of one situation where the daughter had to give up her job to take care of her aged mother. She has done so for about six years and never applied for nor received any aid. They barely scrape by on the mother's Social Security and what her daughter makes selling cosmetics door to door in her neighborhood. They have no transportation and must depend on friends to get groceries, etc.
She gets no help, financial or otherwise, from her three siblings. She has refused to seek financial aid because she considers it charity, even though her friends are urging her to do so. She is exactly thye kind of person the system was designed for.
Unfortunately there will always be those who take advantage of the situation, but there are those who truly need a hand.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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So they go work and the state pays someone else. The net result probably costs more. What are you whining about?
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:32 PM
 
Location: FL
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So they go work and the state pays someone else. The net result probably costs more. What are you whining about?
True, or they have to put them in a nursing home which cost even more.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm not sure how many states are currently doing this, but I do know that Calif made a big deal about it several years ago when they were rolling it out. In these situations, the State is paying a salary for someone to take care of their mother/father/son/dtr/partner/husband/wife. Should tax dollars be used for this or should someone care for their loved one without monetary comp simply because it is the right thing to do?

They use to here in Texas, but stopped it because of the massive fraud that was occurring and neglected elderly.

I didn't get a dime for taking care of my dad for 2 years and the wait for a VA Nurse aid(not full time) was 2 years.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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So they go work and the state pays someone else. The net result probably costs more. What are you whining about?
Unreal how far this country has fallen when it comes to self reliance and responsibility. For the vast majority of our history, families have looked out for their elders or disabled family members because it is the right and moral thing to do. Now states like CA (which is going bankrupt) buy into this notion that fellow tax payers must pay for people from cradle to grave. Worse yet, they want to give financial incentives to corrupt the very fabric of society with liberals leading the way.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:53 PM
 
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Unreal how far this country has fallen when it comes to self reliance and responsibility. For the vast majority of our history, families have looked out for their elders or disabled family members because it is the right and moral thing to do. Now states like CA (which is going bankrupt) buy into this notion that fellow tax payers must pay for people from cradle to grave. Worse yet, they want to give financial incentives to corrupt the very fabric of society with liberals leading the way.

Yes, helping family members take care of family members is corrupting the very fabric of our society.

What kind of society would help take care of the elderly and disabled?

lol
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:35 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Yes, helping family members take care of family members is corrupting the very fabric of our society.

What kind of society would help take care of the elderly and disabled?

lol
He didn't say not to care for them. He most likely just doesn't think that the taxpayers should have to pay for it. I'm skeptical of the program because how do you know if the family member is "sliding along" because the recipient would not argue about the quality of the care? It seems to me that some want these caregiving gigs so that they can stay at home AND make $$.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:37 AM
 
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Should relatives get PAID from the State to take care of their loved ones?
Were the relatives paid to raise their loved ones?

No.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:40 AM
 
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He didn't say not to care for them. He most likely just doesn't think that the taxpayers should have to pay for it. I'm skeptical of the program because how do you know if the family member is "sliding along" because the recipient would not argue about the quality of the care? It seems to me that some want these caregiving gigs so that they can stay at home AND make $$.
It could be the difference between putting a person in a facility (which is more expensive) and letting the person live at home. It could be the difference between a disabled or elderly person having to deal with a complete stranger coming into their home.
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