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Obama isn't doing well, but he could be doing better if he had listened to conservatives who predicted that this exact thing would happen in Iraq.
Sure, if you believe a permanent US occupation of Iraq is better. Because the minute you leave - whether ten days, ten months, or ten years from now - the place is always destined to fall apart.
And if conservatives had any predictive ability, they wouldn't have been idiots who pushed to invade Iraq in the first place.
So basically you have no idea what they are worth, but you assume it is less than $15. Is that because you "feel" they are worth less?
Irrelevant to my point. I'm not talking about dish washers exclusively. That's some strawman you invented to avoid my main point which was the market should set the rate, not the some artificial support.
But if you want to get into specifics, let me go ahead and completely destroy your meager attempt at a point right now.
According to GlassDoor, the median wage for a french fry cook is $8.48. That is nearly HALF of the new mandated minimum wage. The market says $8.48 is what they are worth, but "people's feelings" say it should be $15. See how asinine and idiotic that is?
Did I say every "individual" in a union is liberal?
Where did I say that?
Good question, it sounded like you were implying that when you were trying to blame all the world's problems on liberals. So do you think all or even most union workers are liberal? I know a number of union workers who would disagree with you.
Sure, if you believe a permanent US occupation of Iraq is better. Because the minute you leave - whether ten days, ten months, or ten years from now - the place is always destined to fall apart.
And if conservatives had any predictive ability, they wouldn't have been idiots who pushed to invade Iraq in the first place.
You don't know that for a fact. Iraq spent many decades "not falling apart" under a dictatorship. Are you claiming that Iraqis can only be stable when they are brutally oppressed?
Good question, it sounded like you were implying that when you were trying to blame all the world's problems on liberals. So do you think all or even most union workers are liberal? I know a number of union workers who would disagree with you.
Liberal leaning unions who represent liberal ideals are part of the world's problems. Yes.
So are you going to ignore how you basically were caught lying again? Are you proud of being so intellectually corrupt?
"Should be paid" is a the liberal "feelings" argument.
i.e - "We feel dishwashers should make $60,000 a year! It doesn't make economic sense, and we'll chase businesses out of the city if we do this, but it just seems right."
Nobody's arguing dishwashers should be paid $60000/year. You seem to have an issue with policies you're only pretending other people make. This is probably because liberals upset you and make you sad, but you can't actually argue against them. I think that's why you make things up and pretend other people say them. Maybe there's another reason you make things up and pretend other people say them, but I think it's because liberals make you upset.
Irrelevant to my point. I'm not talking about dish washers exclusively. That's some strawman you invented to avoid my main point which was the market should set the rate, not the some artificial support.
But if you want to get into specifics, let me go ahead and completely destroy your meager attempt at a point right now.
According to GlassDoor, the median wage for a french fry cook is $8.48. That is nearly HALF of the new mandated minimum wage. The market says $8.48 is what they are worth, but "people's feelings" say it should be $15. See how asinine and idiotic that is?
Your first post talks about dishwasher jobs, that is your strawman I am questioning you about. Is $8.48 the median pay in the city of Seattle or Washington?
Anyone with an IQ over room temperature knows this for a fact: you can't invade and destroy a backwards nation of people with a thousand-year culture founded on violent religious intolerance and disregard for human rights, surrounded by other people with the same kind of intolerance, and then force it to evolve into some kind of a flourishing democracy in one or two decades. IT DOES NOT WORK.
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Iraq spent many decades "not falling apart" under a dictatorship.
Yes...because they were under a dictatorship - DUH. You are simply proposing that the USA become the new dictators.
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Are you claiming that Iraqis can only be stable when they are brutally oppressed?
YES. That should be obvious to you by now.
And by the way, same damn thing is going to end up happening in Afghanistan or any other third-world nation the USA decides to take over.
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