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Old 06-29-2014, 03:49 AM
 
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Over the years I have read many stories of squatters breaking into someone's home yet after the owners come back from a vacation or a trip when they ask for police assistance in removing them they can't, at least for a time because apparently squatters have "rights"! Granted in every story it's been a European country; namely England and France and it totally boggles my mind as one of the most stupid, *** backwards thing ever.

Look at this: Squatters: The latest real-estate menace - MSN Real Estate


I don't care if there's a blizzard outside and I come home to a family of 5 in my home, I want them out! They should have NO rights whatsoever considering THEY are the ones that broke in illegally, but it seems as if many European countries are so asinine that they would rather side with squatters and it makes me VERY happy to be an American. Not that I am that worried about squatters but at least I know there is some semblance of sanity.
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Old 06-29-2014, 04:40 AM
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The only rights squatters deserve is basic human decency. As soon as it is definitively proven that they are not the owner and have no agreement with the owner of a property, the authorities should give them enough notice to do nothing more than collect the belongings they can carry. They can pay back rent and damages, later, in order to be able to retrieve anything they couldn't carry out with them at the time of their eviction. They should be treated humanely and as respectfully as they treat those evicting them, and if they truly have no place to live then decency dictates that authorities escort them to a safe, clean shelter for indigents.
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Old 06-29-2014, 04:45 AM
 
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The only rights squatters deserve is basic human decency.
Squatters deserve no rights. Basic human decency would mean THEY would ask if they could stay...
The only reason this kind of stuff gets any traction is because of our over legalized legal
system. A real ripoff in true justice.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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The only rights squatters deserve is basic human decency. As soon as it is definitively proven that they are not the owner and have no agreement with the owner of a property, the authorities should give them enough notice to do nothing more than collect the belongings they can carry. They can pay back rent and damages, later, in order to be able to retrieve anything they couldn't carry out with them at the time of their eviction. They should be treated humanely and as respectfully as they treat those evicting them, and if they truly have no place to live then decency dictates that authorities escort them to a safe, clean shelter for indigents.
That can be proven almost instantly.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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Squatters deserve no rights. Basic human decency would mean THEY would ask if they could stay...
The only reason this kind of stuff gets any traction is because of our over legalized legal
system. A real ripoff in true justice.
So very true. They are losers to stupid and inept to get a real job or at least find something that will take them in.

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The only rights squatters deserve is basic human decency. As soon as it is definitively proven that they are not the owner and have no agreement with the owner of a property, the authorities should give them enough notice to do nothing more than collect the belongings they can carry. They can pay back rent and damages, later, in order to be able to retrieve anything they couldn't carry out with them at the time of their eviction. They should be treated humanely and as respectfully as they treat those evicting them, and if they truly have no place to live then decency dictates that authorities escort them to a safe, clean shelter for indigents.
Hell no they don't! They are the scum of the earth, taking advantage of law-abiding and hard-working citizens. The only "decency" they deserve is not getting a bullet in their head! Nor do they deserve any "notice". As soon as someone calls the cops about squatters they should immediately go in, grab the offenders and throw their *** in a jail cell.

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I don't think squatters rights exist, you may mean adverse possession is very narrow and mostly applies to farmers who have used land for many years, in some states its 25 years and the owner never complained but knew it was used it can be called adverse possession. Some dactylic who squats in an abandon home or unoccupied home has no rights to that property in most places. Now who knows in stupid places like San Francisco or NYC or Mass. Liberals give away everything to the scum of society.
Yeah, liberals do give everything to the scum of society on the pretext on "not hurting their feelings" or some other BS excuse. The Liberals constantly reward slackers, lazy people, and other such scum.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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You have to like undefinable malleable terms like "basic human decency", they have allowed progressives to take so much away from us all.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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There are historical reasons that go *way back* in common law. Basically squatter's rights arise from adverse possession - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

The way it was explained to me made perfect sense. Before modern communication and recordkeeping, there were often questions about whether an absent property owner was still alive or not - a person might undertake a long trip somewhere, say go to war or on a trading trip. At some point, that person's relatives might decide the owner was never coming back and take possession. If the owner never did come back, the property would be passed down to the relative's heirs, to either keep or sell. Now suppose that, say, two generations later, someone arrives in town and says that they have a claim to ownership, because the non-returning landowner had started a family while s/he was away and the stranger is the heir. Should the stranger be able to evict the current owner?

That's the origin. These rights still exist in modern society because, from a LE point of view, a person living on a property may indeed have a right to be there, and should not be kicked out on just anyone's sayso. There has to be proof, and time must be allowed for that proof to be produced and validated, and for any counter-proof to be produced and validated.

The lesson? Keep a good paper trail!
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Old 06-29-2014, 06:38 AM
 
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I have ZERO sympathy for banks that have squatters move into their foreclosed properties, although I can see where neighbors often suffer from squatters moving in next door.
If I came home and found strangers living in my home, they are leaving and going to jail. Now the police would be called first. These could be simple dinguses who fell for a scam, although that isn't likely. If they broke in and printed up phony lease papers, then you have to accept that they are burglars and criminals and have to be assumed to be violent and dangerous. If the police do nothing, then the law is now your responsibility. Like I said, they are leaving, one way or another. There are good Youtube videos of squatters who get driven out of a house they lay claim to. The arrogance and complete lack of character of these people is astounding. They really deserve no sympathy. I was told to never get into the land lord business by those in it because people know how to play the system and live rent free moving from place to place until forcibly evicted.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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I have ZERO sympathy for banks that have squatters move into their foreclosed properties, although I can see where neighbors often suffer from squatters moving in next door.
If I came home and found strangers living in my home, they are leaving and going to jail. Now the police would be called first. These could be simple dinguses who fell for a scam, although that isn't likely.
I don't know how often it happens, but it does happen. Craigs List has seen instances of people who have rented property from scammers who don't actually own the property. Usually the scammer just takes the deposits and runs. But a few of these innocent renters have been given working keys and moved in.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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The only rights squatters deserve is basic human decency. As soon as it is definitively proven that they are not the owner and have no agreement with the owner of a property,

. They should be treated humanely and as respectfully as they treat those evicting them,


and if they truly have no place to live then decency dictates that authorities escort them to a safe, clean shelter for indigents.
I think they should be dragged out and beat within a inch of their life
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