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Old 07-01-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Hobby Lobby employees are still paying for the vasectomy an Viagra lifestyles of others. Justify that hypocracy.
And for all preventative contraception, like the pill, for women. Surely you see the distinction between a drug that prevents conception and one that terminates a conceived embryo.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Yes, that's why female Hobby Lobby employees have to pay for Viagra to help flaccid old men complete the mission.
War on men. Classy.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Corporations should stay out of politics.

Anyway, they've shown their face, so I now know where not to shop!
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Hobby Lobby employees are still paying for the vasectomy an Viagra lifestyles of others. Justify that hypocracy.
They are also covering other birth control. You people can't even be honest in your weak arguments against this.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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This is why the ruling makes no sense at all.
5 old men gerrymandered and tailored a decision to fit their right wing corporate agenda.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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And for all preventative contraception, like the pill, for women. Surely you see the distinction between a drug that prevents conception and one that terminates a conceived embryo.
They don't care. Remember, same people who are proud to support abortion. And they refuse to be honest with what HG doesn't want to pay for and what they are covering.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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What about people like my wife (who found out after a rough birth of our son she could not have any more kids) that use one of the four that they don't want to cover, not for birth control, but for other health issues? She would now be expected to pay about $600 to get hers out of pocket? For a legitimate health problem not related to sex or birth control? Also, last I checked, keeping a woman from getting pregnant is not the same thing as abortion. You religious nuts keep getting crazier. I'm just glad you are getting to be fewer in numbers.
It covers tubal ligation.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:42 PM
 
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Yes, that's why female Hobby Lobby employees have to pay for Viagra to help flaccid old men complete the mission.
They cover birth control.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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It is.
No does not. This ruling is very strange and has a very illogical thought process atbits core.

The language about a sincerely held belief is meaningless and can't be ascertained, but the court repeatedly stressed throughout its decision how important that this religious objection be based on what the court divined as a sincerely held belief.

Saying that the corporation hobby lobby is a person with religious beliefs is very weird.


The narrowness of the decision shows the court knows it is opening up a problem with this ruling and they are trying to stop it by saying this ruling only applies to this one case.

Again That's very not how the court operates.

And with the court's decision the placing of birth control as a special category that can be deemed immoral by religious person like corporations but only those like hobby lobby, by specifically ruling this doesn't apply to other medical treatments is very strange and incomsistent thinking and not how the supreme court operates.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Other insurance mandates, you mean like covering blood transfusions that the supreme court said doesn't apply, but that makes no sense.
Sorry, again they are saying that if you want to make that arguement that you must make it before the court. Hobby Lobby wasn't so your argument was not ruled on.
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