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Old 07-01-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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SCOTUS' Hobby Lobby Ruling Means Little To Employers Already Giving Coverage - Forbes

You have to ask was this about that very small percentage of employers who oppose abortifacients or was this about religion in general...
The ones that didn't provide it are the ones that can continue to not provide it thanks to the SCOTUS ruling.

The libs just got all their panties up in a wad because "social justice" didn't hammer those that don't agree with them.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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And that applies to the 50 other companies owned by Catholics that don't want to pay for any form of birth control.

Separation of Church and State. SCOTUS made the right decision.

You can still get your birth control but it's going to be opening your own wallet for it as opposed to forcing someone else with different religious beliefs to pay for it.


Hobby Lobby Supreme Court ruling applies to contraceptive coverage under new health care law | OregonLive.com
No that is not how conservatives decided this case. On separation of church and state lol.

They decided using the Religiouse freedom and restoration act which was an update or re affirming if another law/act.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-354_olp1.pdf

Opps... Gotta hate it when you go on a long rant that was already answered by the ruling you refuse to read because you're either to scared or wouldn't understand all those big words.
Yeah what you posted 100% proves my point.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No that is not how conservatives decided this case. On separation of church and state lol.

They decided using the Religiouse freedom and restoration act which was an update or re affirming if another law/act.
It is a separation of Church and State.

The government shouldn't force companies to provide birth control if they didn't before due to religious reasons.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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So where does it say that investing in the product you claim to be against is okay? That somehow you are sincere, while investing in said product?
I understand what you are saying but you don't seem to understand how investing in a 401(k) plan works or even the intricacies of how a managed fund operates or is created. You seem to be under the false belief that simply having someone set up a retirement plan for your employees means that you went through every single fund and every single company and decided if that was something you wanted. There's a reason why companies use a third party to operate their retirement plans.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:08 PM
 
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No that is not how conservatives decided this case. On separation of church and state lol.

They decided using the Religiouse freedom and restoration act which was an update or re affirming if another law/act.
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The wisdom of Congress’s judgment on this matter is not our concern. Our responsibility is to enforce RFRA as written, and under the standard that RFRA prescribes, the HHS contraceptive mandate is unlawful.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-354_olp1.pdf

Write your congresscritter and have them take up the issue if it concerns you so much. The court is simply there to enforce laws enacted by congress and signed into law by the president. In this case RFRA was passed unanimously by congress with only 3 dissenting votes in the Senate and signed into law by BJ Bill.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Supreme Court Upholds Little Caesar's Right to Feed Christian Employees to Lions
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-354_olp1.pdf

Write your congresscritter and have them take up the issue if it concerns you so much. The court is simply there to enforce laws enacted by congress and signed into law by the president. In this case RFRA was passed unanimously by congress with only 3 dissenting votes in the Senate and signed into law by BJ Bill.
And today Dems that voted for that bill are saying..."But we didn't mean for it to be used that way..."
Crying in their soup.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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Probably the must influential though, no?
Sure, but if it wasn't them it would have been someone else. The problem is it's a horribly written law. I say that perhaps coming from the left of you.

The only way to do this is single payer. We could easily pay for it with what we are absolutely throwing away around the world and have billions left over even after the inevitable fraud and waste the program would create.

Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee absolutely violated Norma McCorvey's right to privacy but then argued her right to privacy in court. Would the case have been brought sooner or later anyway? Yes it would have.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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It should be taken into consideration when the whole argument revolves around their "sincerely held" beliefs. Otherwise I question the way this country works.
I'm done repeating myself.
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