court rules for Hobby Lobby (biased, insurance, companies, abortion)

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by jojajn

You have any idea how many women died during child birth before medical intervention? What an ignorant statement!

Being pregnant is not a disease diabetes is a disease any statements other than those facts is ignorant

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

The above post shows the simple minded irrational thinking of conservatives. Birth control is medical care.

If a woman becomes pregnant and she seeks and receives medical care is that saying pregnancy is a disease? Of course not. So a person can seek and receive medical care without having a disease. Pregnancy is an excellent example.

But again this view point that seeking birth control in the confused minds of conservatives is equating pregnancy with a disease gets to the crux of the issue, for conservatives have decided that birth control isn't proper medical care like asthma medicine.

And the question becomes why don't they see birth control as medical care?


The answer to that question gets to the ugly and disturbing woman hating/controlling belief system that is at the heart of this so called religious beliefs debate.

For conservatives birth control isn't medical care because it enables women to have sex without the consequence of pregnancy.

And conservatives desperately want to control the sexual behavior of women.


Again in 2014, conservatives don't see birth control as medical care even though birth control is medical care.

This is why conservatives insist that a woman should pay for her birth control out of pocket, even though the money that is spent on an employee's health insurance is that employee's own money.

In the minds of conservatives, birth control is all about enabling women to have consequence free immoral sex and that's not medical care so why should some religious business owner buy a health insurance policy with the employee's money that enables that employee's immoral sexual behavior?

This opens up the question for conservatives.

Why do conservatives consider an employer's morality infringed upon if that employer has to spend the employee's compensation on a health insurance policy, but the employer's morality isn't infringed upon if the employee takes their employee compensation from a paycheck and buys the same product?

Either way it is the employee's compensation being spent.

Hobby lobby employes have the right to get any bc they want . If they use their insurance they can choose 16 different types.

[petch751]

It's time for woman to READ the decision and stop exploiting yourself, degrading yourself and other females.

[toryturner]

Originally Posted by petch751

It's time for woman to READ the decision and stop exploiting yourself, degrading yourself and other females.

Thank you! I am so sick of hearing how women's rights have been trampled. If you want the FOUR contraceptives that are not being offered, pull on your big girl panties and BUY IT YOURSELF!!! You can still get it by the bucketloads.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by wjtwet

Hobby lobby employes have the right to get any bc they want . If they use their insurance they can choose 16 different types.

Whatever birth control, they can or cannot get in their own health insurance policies now rests with what religious person/corporation Hobby Lobby or other religious persons/corporations like hobby lobby decide are morally acceptable.


The reality is that birth control is medical care period. It would be like Hobby Lobby saying our employee health insurance plans don't want cover this specific asthma medicine because of our religious beliefs.

And the question rational people would ask, is why is Hobby Lobby denying their employee's access to this medical care through those employee's health insurance based on their religious beliefs?

Hobby Lobby isn't a medical doctor and Hobby Lobby's religious beliefs aren't medical doctors so why are they deciding the specific asthma medicines that are allowed to be covered?

These are the questions that a company like Hobby a Lobby would face.

But because hobby lobby is denying certain types of birth control and because conservatives don't deem birth control proper medical care, conservatives won't ask those questions of Hobby Lobby like the rest of us who understand that birth control is medical care will ask.


Instead conservatives view birth control as allowing consequence free sex which to conservatives makes birth control about religious morality.

In the conservative mind set, the religious person like corporation can apply their religious morality to their employee's birth control choices in those employee's health insurance policies.


This is all wrong thinking.

And leads to the same conclusion that conservatives want to control the sexual behavior of women and are anti-birth control because conservatives don't see birth control as medical care.

And this leads conservatives to believe that access to birth control through an employee's own health insurance is up to the moral judgement of some religious person like corporation.

[petch751]

Hobby Lobby should have just paid the fine, I mean tax and let everyone pay for their own health insurance.

[SourD]

Good for them. See what you Progressives caused with all this nonsense?

[Redraven]

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE!"

See how simple that is?

[petch751]

They opted to continue offering health insurance for their employees. But for liberals it's never good enough. With this "we want it all paid for attitude" companies should just paid the fine and let the employees pay for 100% of their own health insurance.

[toryturner]

Originally Posted by petch751

Hobby Lobby should have just paid the fine, I mean tax and let everyone pay for their own health insurance.

I thought that too. But maybe the evil corporation Hobby Lobby actually thought that throwing their employees onto the Obamacare exchanges wouldn't be fair. Amazing how this is all their fault.