where is the obamacare section on these boards ? (Franken, regular, vs)

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

Self employed.

Whoa....

You control your taxable income.....you some how claimed to much.

Go over things with your CPA....you need to make some changes.

In Michigan we have people with millions in assets.....but, just income counted.

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Then it sounds like you should pick a better plan. Being self employed definitely sucks in this country, another reason why I am in favor of universal healthcare.

Self employment is the only way.....IMO.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by Driller1

Your kidding???

Nope.

Originally Posted by Driller1

The bill matters......it has to be paid.

The bill is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. Any premium I am quoted is simply my quoted premium and would not be applicable to anyone outside of my sex, age, smoking status, zip, and covered individuals. Ergo, my quoted premium is irrelevant on whether or not low deductible/office visit plans exist.

If you are truly interested, the premiums (for the previous plans) ranged between $250-$286 vs $120 for a plan with a $6K deductible, but that tells you nothing as those are my premiums and would likely be different for you and the OP.

[illtaketwoplease]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Then the OP should have picked a better plan. This isn't rocket science.

there is no better plan... just higher costs. period. no amount of "spin" is going to change the laws of math.

another reason obama needs to get the boot.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by illtaketwoplease

there is no better plan... just higher costs. period. no amount of "spin" is going to change the laws of math.

another reason obama needs to get the boot.

That's like saying there is no better car. If you want a plan that covers more or has a lower deductible then do so.

[EntropyGuardian]

If there were no minimum coverage requirements for health insurance you could probably get a $1 premium, $1 copay plan.

[Fancy-Schmancy]

You could pay for a cheap plan, but what protection did you have? Too many cheap plans didn't cover anything useful or would drop you in an irregular heartbeat. One sick kid could put you into bankruptcy, as happened to way too many people. We needed a change in the way insurance/health care was offered. ACA was the compromise because the Republicans refused to do it any other way. Every liberal I know was and is for single payer or universal coverage. We'll get it one of these days, but meanwhile...some folks are in a bind.

I'm sure people complained about seat-belt laws and the removal of lead from gasoline too...but the safety gains were real. They are real with ACA as well.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by illtaketwoplease

there is no better plan... just higher costs. period. no amount of "spin" is going to change the laws of math.

another reason obama needs to get the boot.

That is just untrue. You are obviously doing something wrong.

[illtaketwoplease]

The bill is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. Any premium I am quoted is simply my quoted premium and would not be applicable to anyone outside of my sex, age, smoking status, zip, and covered individuals. Ergo, my quoted premium is irrelevant on whether or not low deductible/office visit plans exist.

Ergo you simply waste peoples time with misleading information and rates that can't possibly be confirmed. Not to mention plan specifics.

Anytime someone comes to the defense of obmacare, it is simply an attempt to validate their theft from other taxpayers. plain and simple.

[Curmudgeon]

Have you checked the dumpster out back?

Originally Posted by Kracer

People are falling all over themselves to sign up.

That's because they're either drunk or have been beaten into submission.