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Old 07-03-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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No. Are you?
Not that I'm aware of. Although I've always had sort of a distaste for "zoobies."

 
Old 07-03-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I'm not following.
Not a single American? Do you mean to tell me you hire illegal aliens to work as dialysis technicians, charge nurses and managers?
That doesn't sound like any clinic I'd want to set foot in.


You make an unfounded assumption that (1) foreign workers are illegals and (2) Foreigners are second rate workers. For from it. All of the people I mentioned are legal immigrants and some have been here long enough to become naturalized Americans and they are top notch in what they do. It may come as a surpirse that in many professions, sucessful people will chose to hire foreign workers in preference to Americans because they feel more comfortable with people who behave in familiar ways or when they hire a college graduate they know the person's degree means they actually know stuff and don't have to be given a remedial education before they they can be turned loose in the business. An example of this was a senior professor at a major technical university in NY who was an acknowledged leader in the study of glasses and ceramics . He came from Japan and it was no conincidence that every one of the junior researchers in his glass institute were Japanese. He would not hire Americans because he said he didn't know what he was getting when an American applied to work in his group many would not work as hard as a Japanese scientist and he couldn't understand such behavior.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You make an unfounded assumption that (1) foreign workers are illegals and (2) Foreigners are second rate workers. For from it. All of the people I mentioned are legal immigrants and some have been here long enough to become naturalized Americans and they are top notch in what they do. It may come as a surpirse that in many professions, sucessful people will chose to hire foreign workers in preference to Americans because they feel more comfortable with people who behave in familiar ways or when they hire a college graduate they know the person's degree means they actually know stuff and don't have to be given a remedial education before they they can be turned loose in the business. An example of this was a senior professor at a major technical university in NY who was an acknowledged leader in the study of glasses and ceramics . He came from Japan and it was no conincidence that every one of the junior researchers in his glass institute were Japanese. He would not hire Americans because he said he didn't know what he was getting when an American applied to work in his group many would not work as hard as a Japanese scientist and he couldn't understand such behavior.
I was responding to your post.

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If you think grocery stores and fast food
joints are hot beds of non-english speakers just try some of our hospitals and
medical care facillities. In the Washington DC area there are a lot of nurses
and physicians assistants from either the Phillipines or The Carribean or West
Africa (Ghana or Nigeria). At my Dialysis Clinic the Clinic the manager is
Fillipino, as are the charge nurses, and 3/4 of the Dialysis technicians the
others are 1 Puerto Rican, 1 Chinese, 2 Ghanians and a Nicaraguan. Not a single
member of the staff is American
. A member of the DC city council (Marion Barry)
who was hospitalized for kidney failure and received a kidney transplant
actually complained to the management of the Washington Hospital Center (The
regional transpalnt hospital) that none of his nurses was a person born in the
Distric but were all Fillipinos! Kinda upset our Fillipino community here.
Not a single American? Then what are they? If they're legal immigrants, then they're American.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I was responding to your post.


Not a single American? Then what are they? If they're legal immigrants, then they're American.
They're legal residents. That doesn't make them citizens. It does, however, afford them all the protections and benefits of the law but for the right to vote.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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They're legal residents. That doesn't make them citizens.
I guess he interrogated them all to determine if they're citizens or legal residents.
Maybe checked their papers.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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My response is to the OP... I live in a city that has a large French-speaking minority. When I'm at work, half my co-workers are Quebecers. Half my colleagues are talking in French all day, half are speaking English, sometimes we communicate in our second language instead of our first.

If I'm on the bus, I'm bound to hear people speaking Lebanese, Mandarin, Arab, Punjabi, etc. It doesn't bother me, in fact, I love it.

But then, I grew up around a lot of French-speaking people and grew up in a bi-cultural place. For an American who is from a linguistically insulated background, I guess it must be a somewhat alienating experience to hear other languages when you aren't used to it. But unless the other people are talking to you... it doesn't have anything to do with you anyway, so just go about your day.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I guess he interrogated them all to determine if they're citizens or legal residents.
Maybe checked their papers.
I wasn't responding to the matter at hand. I was responding to and correcting only your mistaken supposition. You're welcome!
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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My response is to the OP... I live in a city that has a large French-speaking minority. When I'm at work, half my co-workers are Quebecers. Half my colleagues are talking in French all day, half are speaking English, sometimes we communicate in our second language instead of our first.

If I'm on the bus, I'm bound to hear people speaking Lebanese, Mandarin, Arab, Punjabi, etc. It doesn't bother me, in fact, I love it.

But then, I grew up around a lot of French-speaking people and grew up in a bi-cultural place. For an American who is from a linguistically insulated background, I guess it must be a somewhat alienating experience to hear other languages when you aren't used to it. But unless the other people are talking to you... it doesn't have anything to do with you anyway, so just go about your day.
Lebanese people almost always speak ArabIC.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:53 PM
 
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Lebanese people almost always speak ArabIC.
Yeah, what am I talking about? I don't speak Arabic myself so I wouldn't know what exactly they were speaking, although usually they also speak French-or English.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 09:53 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Your thread has made me more aware. We went to Sam's today in Pineville, N. C. It was like walking into the United Nations. I would love to know how many countries were represented there. My husband and I are beginning to feel like a minority white couple. LOL
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