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Old 07-03-2014, 04:13 PM
 
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Because you can't run away from most socialized federal programs.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty

Why is it that the worst performing states financially are primarily Republican states? If their ideas had any merit would we not see a bettering of conditions rather than the worsening conditions that prevail?
We have too high a percentage of our population in rural areas, and rural areas everywhere lag more urbanized regions, both economically and in terms of typical levels of education.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Old people. They are retired and want better weather. Nothing to do with the economy. There's only 3 major economic centers in the Deep South, and that is Charlotte, Atlanta, and the Reesearch Triangle Park region in NC. Outside of these areas, the Southern economy isn't a very good example of what we should strive for
This could well be a game-changer, though:

The Cities Stealing Jobs From Wall Street - Forbes
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Texas, a solid Republican state if you look at State office holders, is performing well, better than well. Of course, you know that. The Hispanic people, almost 50% of the population in some cities, are an integral, productive, cultural part of this state. They aren't separate.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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And for a dose of reality consider this map from the Mercatus Center showing the fiscal health of the states:



The bottom 5: CA, MA, IL, CT, & NJ. All are solid blue states, and have been for a long time. 40-45 is heavily populated with blue states as well.

On the other hand, the top 5 are (all red): AK, SD, ND, NE and WY

Dave
Oil, Federal subsidies, a lack of infrastructure (aka big cities) and, in the case of Alaska, a combination of all three.

So yeah, North Dakota's doing great...until the oil runs out. And even if it doesn't, who the heck wants to live there?

By the way, California has recovered faster than the rest of the country.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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And for a dose of reality consider this map from the Mercatus Center showing the fiscal health of the states:



The bottom 5: CA, MA, IL, CT, & NJ. All are solid blue states, and have been for a long time. 40-45 is heavily populated with blue states as well.

On the other hand, the top 5 are (all red): AK, SD, ND, NE and WY

Dave
But this is a map of which state *governments* are in good fiscal shape. It may or may not have anything to do with the fiscal shape of the *individuals* living in that state.

Does anyone know of any evidence linking the fiscal condition of individuals to the fiscal condition of the states where those individuals reside? Off the top of my head, I think that this would be hard to show.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Austin
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By the way, California has recovered faster than the rest of the country.
Didn't California protesters just turn away busloads of illegal immigrants, mostly kids, who came across the boarder recently looking for refuge in America, based on promises by Obama's Dream Act (or not), on the way to processing centers? Californians are hypocrites in my opinion.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Didn't California protesters just turn away busloads of illegal immigrants, mostly kids, who came across the boarder recently looking for asylum in America, based on Obama's Dream Act (or not), on the way to processing centers? Californians are hypocrites in my opinion.
What does that have to do with anything being discussed? Aren't you simply assuming that everyone from California is a liberal?

There are plenty of right-wingers in California...esp. in Orange County...just not enough to be effective.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Austin
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What does that have to do with anything being discussed? Aren't you simply assuming that everyone from California is a liberal?

There are plenty of right-wingers in California...esp. in Orange County...just not enough to be effective.
Yes, I am assuming, based on facts, given the Democrat Governor and majority Democratic state legislature.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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But this is a map of which state *governments* are in good fiscal shape. It may or may not have anything to do with the fiscal shape of the *individuals* living in that state.

Does anyone know of any evidence linking the fiscal condition of individuals to the fiscal condition of the states where those individuals reside? Off the top of my head, I think that this would be hard to show.
This will confound the left!

Here is a map of the states bu Gini coefficient. Gini coefficient is a measure of income inequality that the left loves (I happen to think it's largely B.S., but I'm trying to cater to your though pattern). Lower is more equal, higher is less equal.

It's not as strong a correlation, with some red states at the high end, and some at the low end. I do note however that the 5 states with the worst fiscal health are all at the high end of the scale with high levels of income inequality. People are not doing well in these states.

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