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My husband is also a Vietnam Nam Vet. He went because he was drafted. He had no romantic notions about it or what the heck the US was attempting to do in VN, then or now.
Wealth and poverty tend to be natural economies. Middle class is mostly a manufactured economic class. The unions and the GI bill lifted a heck of a lot of people into the middle class in the 50's. Despite relative prosperity, 20 % of the people lived in dire poverty and likely were unaware the Great Depression had ended.
The US has been flooded with uneducated, unskilled people from other countries, since inception and some were imported against their will as slaves. This included Africans and thr Irish. The US has been and remains the most diverse nation of size in the world.
The Southern borders have been open since forever. I caught an old Doris Day movie the other night. I think it was made in the early 60's. Seemed most of the well off white people had Brown house help and the communication challenge was meant to be oh so funny, crept it was not.
So long as there are no consequences associated with hiring undocumented workers, no fence will be high enough nor troops deep enough to keep brown people out of the US. Business, especially small business, depends on cheap labor. No one knows this better than the politicians most of whom will not risk their reelection with immigration reform. It's easier to kick back and blame Obama for illegal immigration that began in earnest well before he was born.
I trend neutral on presidents and don't see much difference between parties, including the Tea Party.
I'd substitute uneducated for adorable, but otherwise, I agree with your post.
Please explain that for me since the blue states contain the majority of higher educated people in the US.
Yes the Red states turn out the majority of athletes and sports fans but the blue states turn out more doctors, scientists, educators.
The nonsense here is your denial that the GOP presented anything other than other political hacks in the last two elections and your lame attempt to blame the many who voted for Obama not because they saw him as good but as the least bad choice.
If Obama had been all Caucasian, he’d have been just a goofy lookin’, skinny, feminine , white guy with big ears and never would have been elected in the first place.
My husband is also a Vietnam Nam Vet. He went because he was drafted. He had no romantic notions about it or what the heck the US was attempting to do in VN, then or now.
Wealth and poverty tend to be natural economies. Middle class is mostly a manufactured economic class. The unions and the GI bill lifted a heck of a lot of people into the middle class in the 50's. Despite relative prosperity, 20 % of the people lived in dire poverty and likely were unaware the Great Depression had ended.
The US has been flooded with uneducated, unskilled people from other countries, since inception and some were imported against their will as slaves. This included Africans and thr Irish. The US has been and remains the most diverse nation of size in the world.
The Southern borders have been open since forever. I caught an old Doris Day movie the other night. I think it was made in the early 60's. Seemed most of the well off white people had Brown house help and the communication challenge was meant to be oh so funny, crept it was not.
So long as there are no consequences associated with hiring undocumented workers, no fence will be high enough nor troops deep enough to keep brown people out of the US. Business, especially small business, depends on cheap labor. No one knows this better than the politicians most of whom will not risk their reelection with immigration reform. It's easier to kick back and blame Obama for illegal immigration that began in earnest well before he was born.
I trend neutral on presidents and don't see much difference between parties, including the Tea Party.
Unfortunately the immigration reform bill s.744 does very little to address our immigration issues other than reward the illegals. The accountability for employers you speak is weak at best. It is Obama's watch so it is fair to hold him accountable for what is happening under his watch. He has had 6 years to address the issue. The so called bi-partisan senate bill is nothing more than a porkulous package and Obama absolutely supports it.After 6 years he doesn't get to blame everything on Bush. He can blame the GOP, but his idea of compromise is my way or the highway.
I agree completely with you in regard to the 2 parties and the Tea Party.
However, today's GOP tells its followers that every election they lose is the result of massive fraud that they can never substantiate. Their loss will result in the downfall of America. Whoever beat them is illegitimate.
Some folks see through this BS. Others swallow it eagerly.
This. So many of these folks seem to think that if you're not nearly foaming at the mouth with rage and anger, then you must think Obama is a perfect creation with no flaws, and we all meet daily to bow down at his feet. There seems to be no middle ground with these people. To them, you either viciously hate the man and think he is the spawn of satan, or you worship him as some sort of god. Some of us are actually capable of rational, independent thought instead of buying into idiotic partisan rhetoric from either side. It is completely possible to disapprove of certain things about the president and his administration without thinking he's a Muslim, Communist, Socialist, Marxist, un-American Kenyan who's hell bent on destroying the country and needs to be impeached. Not to mention, it must be exhausting to be so angry and outraged all the time.
Internet forums attract many who prefer to blame instead of taking responsibility for themselves, regardless of their politics.
I doubt they are watching the news, as they walk through barren Southeastern desert, just as they have for over 30 years now. Just as they will no matter who the POTUS is in 2017, 2021, 2025...
We're popular, as our economy is far better than Central America's, and we have far too much land mass to effectively protect when folks will risk death and inhumane conditions (weather) simply for the opportunity America offers. the name of the POTUS isn't going to change that.
Tell me that one of you 47%ers would have voted for anyone else other than Obama. lol
It isn't the 47% of the votes Obama got that you should have been interested in, it is the 4% extra that Obama got over Romney that you should have focused on. Though we do go by electoral votes which Mittens fell short of by 64 votes. Or as we call that, a landslide.
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Originally Posted by MrClose
If Obama had been all Caucasian, he’d have been just a goofy lookin’, skinny, feminine , white guy with big ears and never would have been elected in the first place.
BULL! Even a "goofy lookin’, skinny, feminine , white guy with big ears" would have been a better choice than a tired old man with a ditz or Mr "I like war when I don't have to fight" Romney.
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VERY well said!
Do you "want your country back?"
