Anyone NOT celebrate the 4th of July?

[jmqueen]

Originally Posted by armory

You know what is really hilarious about your rant? None of the above would be controversial if liberal lawyers never brought all of this into the realm of the federal government. This should all be handled at the state level and when you sought out SCOTUS you stepped your foot in dookie.

Liberals incorrectly thought government would be the great mediator. When it backfired into your faces you got peed off.

This liberal is not a fan of the ACA except that it's better than the nothing you cons prefer. I actually think this HL ruling will nudge the government in the direction of single-payer.

And honestly, if someone must get between me and my doctor, I'd prefer the government to religious fanatics.

Go ahead and use the term RWNJ all you want, LWNJ. Most people don't really give a damn until you start ramming it down their throats. It's a progressive tactic, keep nipping at their heels until they give over and never let up even when you have your way. And you wonder why people are apathetic toward the issue.

What IS is with you cons and your obsession with things being rammed down your throats?

IMO...Take your BC, and have all the abortions you want but, it is a lifestyle choice so you need pay for it yourself. Do you smoke/drink? Same thing.
Don't ask SCOTUS or the American public to bend over and placate you for that which is of your own doing.

Bahahahaha. If your insurance covers birth control and it's provided by you and your employer as part of your compensation package, you ARE paying for it, for heaven's sake. Where in hell do you guys get this bizarre idea that women are NOT paying for it and you are? Talk about the lie that keeps on giving.

If this upset Independence Day for you I would hate to see Christmas day and the thoughts you have about gift buying. Is it the fault of the country if you can't afford to buy that Lexus with a big red bow?

Now there's a strawman among strawmen.

BTW, I had a lovely Independence Day, thanks. As I stated in my post, I merely contemplated some recent news and the future of my daughters while watching the long and awesome fireworks show in my town. As I said in my post. But don't let that stop you from making stuff up!

[jmqueen]

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Originally Posted by hoffdano

You are lazy repeating "case law" over and over. Did the SCOTUS ruling deny YOU paid for contraceptives? Simple question.

I answered it. I am irrelevant to this law. I care about others, which is apparently a difficult concept for you to grasp, since it went right over your head the first time I posted about it.

Unless your doctor cites religion in a refusal to prescribe medication to you, religion has NOT decided what drugs can be prescribed. You have yet to show me anything contrary. I don't want religion involved either. But a company with a legitimate religious foundation, may choose to not include certain drugs in its medical plan. That's what the SCOTUS did. I have reservations about future application of this ruling. But it hasn't denied you, or women in general, anything.

Companies don't have "religious foundations." If they did, they'd be nonprofit churches. And yes, religion IS deciding what doctors can subscribe. Oh yes, I'm aware of the false argument that the woman can go off-insurance to buy it. But the point is that she shouldn't have to, and ESPECIALLY not at the behest of religious nuts.

I am not a "con." I just don't agree with your reactionary assessment of this issue. It was the government that ruled on Roe vs. Wade, wasn't it? It was the government that passed the 19th amendment, correct? Government can do good things.

Where did I say otherwise? I said this ruling is destructive, harmful and unConstitutional.

Most plans do cover birth control. I'm not against that. I'd much rather prevent an unwanted pregnancy than abort it. The recent ruling backs the government ever so slightly away from telling a business what to do.

You objected to female specific policy differences, didn't you? Didn't you object to coverage of Viagra? I believe most plans do not cover Viagra.

I don't object at all to coverage of Viagra. That's the entire point. *sigh* I object to the hypocrisy of singling out women's sex-related drugs and letting men off the hook. Viagra interferes with God's plan, right? Can't be having that, now can we? Oh, wait … it's a male thing ..