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Old 07-07-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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I sure like how the internet uncovers a lot of BS by politicians


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President Theodore Roosevelt enacted 1,081 executive orders during his presidency. President Dwight Eisenhower had 484. President Ronald Reagan had 381. And President George W. Bush had 291.

President Barack Obama has enacted 182 executive orders -- yet the GOP accuses him of being an "imperial president," and Republican members of the House of Representatives are preparing to sue him for violating the Constitution.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Are all executive orders the same?
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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I sure like how the internet uncovers a lot of BS by politicians


Opinion: Dear Speaker Boehner: Do your job instead - CNN.com


President Theodore Roosevelt enacted 1,081 executive orders during his presidency. President Dwight Eisenhower had 484. President Ronald Reagan had 381. And President George W. Bush had 291.

President Barack Obama has enacted 182 executive orders -- yet the GOP accuses him of being an "imperial president," and Republican members of the House of Representatives are preparing to sue him for violating the Constitution.
Some or most of the EO's he signed he didn't have the power to.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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Are all executive orders the same?
OK Pedro; What do you think?
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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There is nothing intrinsically unconstitutional about an Executive Order. But if an EO is used for the wrong thing, then it CAN be unconstitutional.... as many of Obama's are.

Executive Orders are what a President is supposed to use to carry out something passed by Congress (and signed into law by the Prez, of course).

Classic example is, Congress passes something saying that a group of Federal buildings on a corner in DC will be painted brown. Obama signs it into law. Obama then issues an Exec Order to solicit three companies for bids on the painting work, issues another order to check the bidding companies' qualifications etc. Obama is issuing Exec Orders pursuant to something Congress passed into law.

If he's issuing Exec Orders to delay implementation of part of Obamacare for a year, that's the equivalent of issuing an EO to paint the buildings red instead of brown. It does NOT carry out what Congress passed. In fact, it's the act of a dictator with no Congressional oversight or adherence to procedures required by the Constitution, at all.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Some or most of the EO's he signed he didn't have the power to.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Some or most of the EO's he signed he didn't have the power to.
Examples, please.
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Old 07-07-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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Examples, please.
Beyond the one I already gave?
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Old 07-07-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Beyond the one I already gave?
You said many examples, please list the many examples and when the court decided they were unconstitutional, not Little-Acorn whose opinion on constitutionality is about as useful as poison ivy when looking for something to wipe with in the woods.

I disagree a lot with this President, as I do with many elected officials. its not some great tragedy for the court to say "Ok, thats to far", thats how our system is supposed to work. The President isn't breaking law by signing executive orders, even if its unconstitutional.

So again, out of the 150 so executive order name the "many" that are unconstitutional per the courts that have seen a argument before a bench. I bet you can't get more then 10, which isn't many, in fact its far less then most Presidents have reversed.
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Old 07-07-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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You said many examples,
Umm, no, I didn't.
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