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Oh...because I grew up in a single parent home with three other siblings and I turned out just fine. Joined the military, did my time, got out, went to college, graduated as Valedictorian, and now I'm a game developer.
That proof means absolutely nothing to me.
I was responding to a post that asserted single-parent families were "more than likely" to have fewer problems than dual-parent homes. That assertion is firmly refuted by the facts--the probability is the opposite.
"More likely" does not mean "most definitely in every case."
Yes, of course heterosexuals are the norm, but nontraditional families have been growing for decades. Extended family and community are growing in importance for everybody.
I'm afraid I did not see anything in that article about the incidence of extended families increasing in the US. It said:
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Historically, among certain Asian and Native American cultures the family structure consisted of a grandmother and her children, especially daughters, who raised their own children together and shared child care responsibilities.
That is talking about certain ethnic groups in the past, as I myself mentioned the historical incidence of extended families in Hawaii.
Studies of how children fare in non-traditional households really take three generations to prove out. It's only when they become grandparents and you see how their children parent that you know if they ended up with their heads screwed on properly.
You can't come to a conclusion about how a generation is doing while they're still children...you can only note checkpoints.
I guess that explains why there are so many screwed up kids NOW ... Their grand-parents, and GREAT-grand-parents were raised in a "traditional" household ....
Oh...because I grew up in a single parent home with three other siblings and I turned out just fine. Joined the military, did my time, got out, went to college, graduated as Valedictorian, and now I'm a game developer.
That proof means absolutely nothing to me.
I KNOW two cases, myself and my best friend ... we both were raised by "single" mothers(both divorced) we are now middle aged adults in monogamous straight relationships, have jobs, houses, and are not drug addicts or alcoholics, aside "normal" teen-ager stuff we never got into trouble.
Oh...because I grew up in a single parent home with three other siblings and I turned out just fine. Joined the military, did my time, got out, went to college, graduated as Valedictorian, and now I'm a game developer.
That proof means absolutely nothing to me.
Can't argue with your logic, you grew up in a single parent home and turned out ok, therefor, the millions of people that didn't grow up OK are the anomalies and you are the rule.
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No. It is absolutely untrue about single-parent homes that kids are "more likely than not to end up just as fine." There are decades, and decades, and decades of data proving that children from single parent homes are more likely to have more problems than "than the traditional mom/dad household."
That particular point is not even up for debate, unless one wants to throw out all the data and just go on "feels."
Just throw out all the other factors in WHY a child has problems while growing up ....
Hmm which is "better" for the child ... growing up in a household where Dad and/or Mom is an alcoholic, Dad regularly beats and Mom and the kids, jumps from menial job to menial job because he is a drunk OR Growing up in a household with a same-sex couple that has stable employment, keeps a nice house, tends to the child's needs, shows love and devotion for each other and the child(ren). Your way, the former is ALWAYS better right?
Hard when you are comparing apples and bananas isn't?
'Overall', I don't know how children of homosexual couples can be "as well adjusted" to our society as the equivalent Hetero couple in a society where the majority of that society demonizes same sex couples (At least until recently). Even today there are parents, grandparents, friends and family members that dismiss or disown gay members of their own family. When members of your family or extended family don't accept your sexual indentity I don't know how you can be "as well adjusted" to our society as children of a traditional male and female couple.
I have no doubt that a Gay couple can have "as well adjusted" children in a society that is accepting of them. Not there yet.
Many gay people find their families to be less than accepting of their relationships -- usually the gay person finds another 'family', made up of friends, neighbors, and, yes, the parents of their children's friends. Same as if your birth family has a problem with your religious faith, your marriage to someone of another race, or from another country. If your family is toxic or bigoted, sometimes you just have to cut loose.
If society is the problem, only by being open about our relationships can we change anyone's mind. Secrecy only leads to more secrecy and shame.
'Well-adjusted' is in the eye of the individual. I know plenty of people who tossed aside their toxic families and have been all the better for it. Their families were 'traditional male and female' and totally screwed up.
No. It is absolutely untrue about single-parent homes that kids are "more likely than not to end up just as fine." There are decades, and decades, and decades of data proving that children from single parent homes are more likely to have more problems than "than the traditional mom/dad household."
That particular point is not even up for debate, unless one wants to throw out all the data and just go on "feels."
Single parent does not equal gay couple...who are parenting together.
Can't argue with your logic, you grew up in a single parent home and turned out ok, therefor, the millions of people that didn't grow up OK are the anomalies and you are the rule.
I...never once linked or put forth the notion that because I turned okay in a single parent hold that MILLIONS OF OTHERS PEOPLE turn out okay. Merely what I was doing was showing an exception to the studies that the person I was responding to put forth about single parents, etc,etc. Nice of you to follow.
Last edited by Oldhag1; 07-10-2014 at 07:42 AM..
Reason: Deleted quote and direct response to it. Congratulations, by the way. :)
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