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My contribution to my former employer's group plan substantially increased every year in the 80's, 90's and early 00's. We then switched to my husband's employer's group plan and guess what? The premiums continued to increase each and every year.
His employer does however, allow their employees to earn credits towards premiums by choosing and demonstrating healthy lifestyle choices, loosing weight and keeping it off, walking at least 10,000 steps a day, having an annual physical and so on. Guess they figure those who embrace healthier lifestyle choices stay healthier and have fewer claims.
Healthcare costs have been rising all over the world, all along, too, just not as much as they have in the US.
Hospital trade associations, big pharma and medical manufacturers cannot easily buy a seat at the table as they have done for more than 60 years , in the US.
The ACA will continue to prove to those paying attention conservatism's rejection of objective reality.
I mean remember when no one was gonna sign up because no one wanted the ACA? Don't hear that lie anymore.
Remember when the ACA was going to prove too expensive so no one would buy it? Don't hear that lie anymore.
Remember when more people had lost insurance than gained it because of the ACA? Don't hear that lie anymore.
Remember when it was very few uninsured people were even buying on the exchanges? Don't hear that lie anymore.
Remember the story that very few people would pay their premiums? Don't hear that lie anymore.
Remember how the ACA was in a death spiral and doomed to failure? Don't hear that lie as much. These are conservatives after all.
Essentially the new fact free conservative lie is in the future in the future it will be worse. The present doesn't count with knowable facts no longer counts for ACA analysis or fantasy projection from conservatives. Now, It's all in the future.
The future rate shocks that won't be here next year based on reality based reports. It's the future costs not based reality based reports about the present.
conservatives continue to drift further and further away from reality.
Some New Yorkers are in sticker shock after receiving notices from their insurance companies saying that they have asked for significant rate increases through the state’s health exchange next year.
The exchange, which has prided itself on being affordable, is now facing requests for increases as high as 28 percent for some customers of MetroPlus, a new entry to the individual insurance market and one of the least costly — and most popular — plans on the exchange this year.
The first Obamacare rate increases for 2015 have been posted on-line. The figures come from two states, Washington State and Virginia, which posted the proposed rate increases for their exchanges on-line. In Washington State, the enrollment-weighted average rate increase is 9.6%. In Virginia, it’s 11.7%.
"Some lucky policyholders will see health insurance rate increases of only 10%, more or less. Those who aren't so lucky will see hikes of 15% and 20%. And then there are the really unlucky ones who will have to swallow surges of 25% or more for coverage."
Of course it went up. But it went up AGAIN and when I LOSE my healthcare insurance DUE TO OBAMACARE, if I choose to buy it again, it will go up again. But I'm supposed to because po useless folks are getting a free ride with subsidies. And you don't expect people who are doing the subsidizing to look at the welfare subsidy crowd with disdain?.
How many times do you need to be told that you buying insurance does not subsidize the policy cost of another?
This is false. Pre Obamacare NYC health insurance was $1K/month for a policy that offered any hospital coverage. Post Obamacare the same policy was around $3-$400. Everyone else wasn't so lucky, but New Yorkers benefited greatly.
" Some New Yorkers are in sticker shock after receiving notices from their insurance companies saying that they have asked for significant rate increases through the state’s health exchange next year.
The exchange, which has prided itself on being affordable, is now facing requests for increases as high as 28 percent for some customers of MetroPlus, a new entry to the individual insurance market and one of the least costly — and most popular — plans on the exchange this year."
“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.” – Barack Hussein Obama, Sept. 12, 2008
“If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” – Barack Hussein Obama, Feb. 24, 2009
Hope and Change.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 07-09-2014 at 09:10 PM..
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This is false. Pre Obamacare NYC health insurance was $1K/month for a policy that offered any hospital coverage. Post Obamacare the same policy was around $3-$400. Everyone else wasn't so lucky, but New Yorkers benefited greatly.
So all of the articles I posted are untrue and all of the people quoted are lying? If anything, the New York Times has a liberal bias so why would they lie about this?
Also, your statement does not make sense considering that premiums will vary from one policy to the next and from one person to the next. When you say that "NYC health insurance was $1K/month and is now $3-$400", I am just left scratching my head wondering what policy are you talking about and for whom. Also note that the article I posted is talking about the premium increases that are yet to come.
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because po useless folks are getting a free ride with subsidies. And you don't expect people who are doing the subsidizing to look at the welfare subsidy crowd with disdain?.
