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Well of course they do not "pass through". They are transported across the river where they are promptly arrestedfor illegal entry and sent to detention camps pending resolution of their case according to law. Do you propose the the Border Patrol shoot them while they are on the water?
They are not arrested.
The only ones being threatened with "arrest" are the Border Patrol agents and medical staff.
I heard/read they are released and told to "report" to court which they never do.
So I am wondering, which is it. Do they stay in detention camps or are they released?
Both. Some with family ties were released. A number of Guatamalans are here "legally". They sought asylum and their cases are pending. Some of the kids coming over are their kids, so those were released from what I saw on the local news. But many of them are being held at the Border Patrol facility in Nogales, AZ among other places as well. Those ones will likely be sent back. How soon depends. If the Pubs continue to oppose Obama's request to change the anti-trafficking law so they can be deported more easily, it could be a while and, of course, more will pour in.
There are already demonstrations going on out this way to "Don't separate families". So, the longer this drags on the more the political pressure will be on Dems to resist efforts to deport them.
Both. Some with family ties were released. A number of Guatamalans are here "legally". They sought asylum and their cases are pending. Some of the kids coming over are their kids, so those were released from what I saw on the local news. But many of them are being held at the Border Patrol facility in Nogales, AZ among other places as well. Those ones will likely be sent back. How soon depends. If the Pubs continue to oppose Obama's request to change the anti-trafficking law so they can be deported more easily, it could be a while and, of course, more will pour in.
The backlog to hear cases is 350,000 which means it will be years before their case comes up.
Obama has not added any additional staff over the years to decrease the load.
And the bulk of that $3.7 billion is to pay for their upkeep here in America.
In the '50s, a million arrests took place a year along the Mexican border.
We increased the number of visas available through the Bracero program.
Arrests dropped 95 % and illegal workers became legal ones.
I just don't know if there are that many jobs to warrant an increased amount of visas
in our economy right now. We don't have the economy that we did in the 1950's -
sure wish we did.
If the Pubs continue to oppose Obama's request to change the anti-trafficking law so they can be deported more easily, it could be a while and, of course, more will pour in.
There are already demonstrations going on out this way to "Don't separate families". So, the longer this drags on the more the political pressure will be on Dems to resist efforts to deport them.
Now I am totally confused. I know Senator Flake, R-AZ (yep, that's is his name) is for revising the law, as well as many other Republicans, to expedite their deportation. It seems it is the Dems who are opposed to changing the bill for quicker deportation.
"A group appointed by House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) as well as some rank-and-file Republicans said they would push to revise a 2008 law when considering Mr. Obama's funding request to address what he has called an "urgent humanitarian situation" on the border. The president has asked for more flexibility with the law, and on Wednesday, he suggested the changes be included in the emergency spending bill."
But some Democrats are wary of the change and said the border situation couldn't be quickly resolved just by turning away migrants. "It's very clear that many of these children and families are fleeing violence, and to send them back could mean to send them back into a harmful or potentially deadly situation," said Rep. Beto O'Rourke, one of five Texas Democrats who represent districts on the border with Mexico."
The backlog to hear cases is 350,000 which means it will be years before their case comes up.
Obama has not added any additional staff over the years to decrease the load.
And the bulk of that $3.7 billion is to pay for their upkeep here in America.
A little less than half to upkeep and such. Most of that for detention centers.
Obama has no ability to add staff other than by shifting money. The Congress has to provide it.
One of the major goals of the 3.7 is to shorten the backlog.
A little less than half to upkeep and such. Most of that for detention centers.
Obama has no ability to add staff other than by shifting money. The Congress has to provide it.
One of the major goals of the 3.7 is to shorten the backlog.
It's still a very general type of request.
It also mentions use of more drones along the border to scare people off.
IMHO it's not detailed enough to satisfy Congress, especially the House.
And there's no guarantee it will work. Putting more people at the border won't do any good if you cannot turn them back. It will end up as that many more "escorts" to the ICE Welcome Center in McAllen.
The ACLU has sued the FedGov saying every single one of those children deserve a lawyer.
That will have to come out of that $3.7 billion. And what about reimbursing the border cities and counties that have gone into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt due to overtime having to help deal with the influx ?
Over 500 other groups have also contacted the WH regarding the 2008 law and enhanced security (they are against both).
It's still a very general type of request.
It also mentions use of more drones along the border to scare people off.
IMHO it's not detailed enough to satisfy Congress, especially the House.
And there's no guarantee it will work. Putting more people at the border won't do any good if you cannot turn them back. It will end up as that many more "escorts" to the ICE Welcome Center in McAllen.
The ACLU has sued the FedGov saying every single one of those children deserve a lawyer.
Over 500 other groups have also contacted the WH regarding the 2008 law and enhanced security (they are against both).
Of course. What it would purportedly do is provide a big local immigration court to resolve the requests.
The other thing is to change to 2008 law to better sort real asylum seekers from economic migrants. Tough to see how you do that real clean though.
Of course. What it would purportedly do is provide a big local immigration court to resolve the requests.
The other thing is to change to 2008 law to better sort real asylum seekers from economic migrants. Tough to see how you do that real clean though.
There are at least two pieces of legislation, one in 2002 and another in 2008.
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I know Senator Flake, R-AZ (yep, that's is his name) is for revising the law, as well as many other Republicans, to expedite their deportation. It seems it is the Dems who are opposed to changing the bill for quicker deportation.
