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So if I write an op ed on a website saying that the Smurfs are real and that Papa Smurf is a communist would someone post it here swearing that it's real saying that the smurfs got who they voted for or would that be kind of stupid.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
Obama is a great 'community organizer" and a terrible president. Anyone who thought that a community organizer with no executive skills at all would make a good president needs to have thier voting rights revoked.
When you put away your partisan skirt and stop only reading silly, childish biased news sources, you'd probably have a different opinion.
Time for people in this country who call themselves conservative to stop crying and think for themselves.
I suppose if we were Smurfs that analogy would make sense. Since we are humans, we use the best data we can find. Your definition of "childish biased news sources" seems to be any that say a bad thing about your cult leader.
You don't have to be partisan to use common sense. Unlike you, I'll rail against any bad politician regardless of party, and the source I cited is quite neutral.
I love it... you use cartoon characters to make an analogy, and then call neutral news sources childish.
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Originally Posted by remoddahouse
As opposed to Republicanwhinerbots? How's that glass house treat you?
Wait, aren't there a slew of posts here complaining about his Executive Orders? The leader of the House is talking about suing him for his decisions. I'd say you're straight up wrong on decisions.
In terms of major pieces of legislation he pushed, there was more than the ACA. It's funny how so many childish people are whining in this forum about all that he has done and now you're saying he hasn't done anything. Sure.
Comparing Reagan's congress to the modern one is not the same thing at all. Congress works differently now, most districts are jury rigged and lawmakers don't want to do anything that might threaten their position in the primary for their own party. have a look at what the current Congress has passed vs the one in place with Raegan. None of those Presidents you mentioned had to face the current situation. Not a valid comparison.
Like Obama or not, can you please make some better arguments.
Actually, the arguments are just fine but they don't resonate when they butt-up against a totally closed, wholly partisan mind, but I repeat myself!
As opposed to Republicanwhinerbots? How's that glass house treat you?
I'm unaware of any modern-day Republican figure with a cult following like that of Obama. A cult following who spends hours a day here trying to convince us their messiah can do no wrong, and instead to blame everyone else. It's downright creepy.
At least Republicans recognize and admit issues with Bush.
You got what you voted for, or at least what they said you voted for!
Every president has faced falling poll ratings in their second term. This "important point" is actually fairly meaningless.
As far as getting what you voted for, by your logic this means that all those conservatives and Republicans who voted for George W. Bush wanted the economic crash, housing disaster and massive unemployment his admin brought us. Thanks a lot Bush voters, because the rest of us got stuck with your mess and your wars
The federal government is being run like Detroit's city government. Total failure.
I see that too.
Here is a very good article IMO
"The most obvious candidate is the city’s vast unfunded pension programs, which have been running deficits for years. Fully 99.6 percent of the city’s retiree health-care liabilities are unfunded, and the program generally pays 80 percent to 100 percent of retirees’ medical costs. From 2007 to 2012, the city’s two biggest pension programs paid out $3.3 billion more in benefits than they took in through contributions or investment income. Unfunded obligations account for $9.2 billion of Detroit’s $18 billion debt: $3.5 billion comes from the pension part and $5.7 billion comes from the retiree health-care liability."
"the city throws plenty of money at its schools, which are beholden to the powerful Detroit Federation of Teachers, spending more than $14,000 a student annually. Yet little value is received in return: In 2009, Detroit public-school students turned in the lowest scores ever recorded in the national math-proficiency test. More than a third of students fail to graduate."
"In many ways, Detroit is a model of tax-and-spend liberalism"
Every president has faced falling poll ratings in their second term. This "important point" is actually fairly meaningless.
As far as getting what you voted for, by your logic this means that all those conservatives and Republicans who voted for George W. Bush wanted the economic crash, housing disaster and massive unemployment his admin brought us. Thanks a lot Bush voters, because the rest of us got stuck with your mess and your wars
Bush had nothing to do with the economic crash. His first six years the economy was all sunshine and roses. The democrats took over congress his last two years and everything then went to h$ll..
You either don't know the facts, ar refuse to admit the truth..
All the failures you mention can be directly attributed to the demo congress. Every time a democrat gets involved in anything, it fails..
So if I write an op ed on a website saying that the Smurfs are real and that Papa Smurf is a communist would someone post it here swearing that it's real saying that the smurfs got who they voted for or would that be kind of stupid.
When you put away your partisan skirt and stop only reading silly, childish biased news sources, you'd probably have a different opinion.
Time for people in this country who call themselves conservative to stop crying and think for themselves.
Brilliant. So let me get this straight- you think Obama is a great president and that anyone who voted for him (a community organizer with no executive experience and association with known communists throughout his life) was well informed and made a wise decision? Events of his presidency would suggest otherwise.
1. record $17.5 trillion debt
2. record deficits
3. open borders with no enforcement of immigration laws
4. higher taxes
5. record number of citizens on food stamps
6. record numbers of citizens unemployed
7. record number of citizens on social security disability
8. lower incomes
9. foreign policy disasters
a. Ukraine
b. Libya
c. Egypt
d. Syria
e. Iraq
10. war on coal
11. limits on energy exploration on federal lands
12. failed $1 trillion stimulus
13. IRS scandal
14. Benghazi scandal
15. Fast and Furious
16. NSA scandal
17. AG in contempt of Congress
18. Lerner in contempt of Congress
19. Obamacare disaster
20. Higher corporate taxes
The above shows a nation in decline and an incompetent president in confusion. If you think Obama is a "good" president (voted the worst since WWII), I would definately say that you are unable to judge presidents effectively and probably should not vote.
It would be analagous to someone picking the Cubs to win the World Series every year. One can appreciate the loyalty and fanatacism of the their fans, but one questions their sanity.
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Events of his presidency would suggest otherwise.
