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View Poll Results: Should the government encouraging creating a family?
Yes, they should encourage having a family (spouse, children). 9 17.65%
Yes, but only reproduction, marriage is not a gov't matter 2 3.92%
Yes, but only adoption, marriage is not a gov't matter/too many kids in foster care 1 1.96%
No, none of this is the government's business 39 76.47%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-10-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Through its tax laws, the government IS encouraging families.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Through its tax laws, the government IS encouraging families.
You may be surprised to learn there is nothing new in governments encouraging people to have kids. People have always understood the importance of having a future for their nation.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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This is the population pyramid in Japan (projected). You DO NOT want see this in a country, because it spells big economic issues. Way too many old people, and way too few young people supporting the nation. It's a big problem.
Population rates rise and fall based on the economic and social needs and conditions in the country.

If people feel like having children is a bad thing, then we don't want them having kids because they won't be good parents. Money is not a motivation for having a child. It should be a demotivating factor, and government artificially inflating anything like that, is bad news.

Our population will have cycles, as do most things in free market economies and societies. America has always relied on immigrant population for growth. The number of children isn't always good, and it shouldn't be encouraged by the federal government.

Japan doesn't have a major immigration problem.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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Should the government encourage marriage and children? Or is it a private matter that the government should not have a say in?

Does not wanting a family make you a worse American?

Thinking about it from this realm: children are necessary to keep the population from declining and marriage generally leads to stability in these children's lives.
They kind of do with Child tax credits and deductions. Sorry Gringo- did not get to your post!
But you are right!
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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You may be surprised to learn there is nothing new in governments encouraging people to have kids. People have always understood the importance of having a future for their nation.
The only thing surprising is your assumption that the policy is a surprise.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Population rates rise and fall based on the economic and social needs and conditions in the country.
No, they don't.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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If Americans don't have families it seems like they are moving themselves to minority status. The rest of the world isn't going to sit still while the American population shrinks.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No, they don't.
Are you telling me the baby boom didn't happen because we had great economic conditions?

Insanity
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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If Americans don't have families it seems like they are moving themselves to minority status. The rest of the world isn't going to sit still while the American population shrinks.
Depends upon which "Americans" you are speaking about.

White Anglo-Saxon Protestants along with White/European Americans have had declining birth rates since the post war Baby Boom. Indeed IIRC rates had been declining for native white females since before that war but were masked by overall "white" immigration from all over Europe.

The strictly "white" population in the United States will reach minority status for most of the country in twenty or about years. In some areas it has happened already and there is no way to reverse this trend. Quite simply there aren't enough white females of childbearing years and importantly <30 to remain fertile long enough to produce children even if they were so inclined.

Contrary to popular belief vast amount of the growth in the Latino/Hispanic population in the United States is not from illegal immigration, but those that are already here having children. This is why that demographic is the fastest growing of the USA atm.

In much of Western Europe the same thing is going on; white females simply aren't interested in having huge families. If they do have children it is often one or two which is simply replacement numbers for their parents.

Even when many whites do marry there is no promise their spouses today will be of the same race due to increased acceptance and levels of inter-racial marriage. Once you go down that route you have diluted the pool so to speak.

Unless we enter into a world such as that of the "Handmaiden's Tale" White/European populations over much of the world will decline into minority status.
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