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I think Odinloki1 would like to move to Bangladesh where everybody is poor, that way he can't blame the wealthy for their condition... he likes it when the poor robs the wealthy but when someone steals from the poor... look out... life is so unfair... its only fair when you rob someone and they can't rob you back...
No. I'll appreciate it if you don't put words in my mouth. I would rather see America as a blossoming place of opportunity. Where those that work 40 hours can support themselves and a family. I'd like to see parents able to support their kids and be able to see each other so their relationships aren't broken from lack of contact. I'd like to see a smart poor kid have the same opportunities and likelihood of acheivement as an idiot whose parents donated money to Harvard. I'd like to see people not stretched to the limit by laissez faire, supply and demand, highest bidder only economics that force people to have to choose between rent and food.
No. I'll appreciate it if you don't put words in my mouth. I would rather see America as a blossoming place of opportunity. Where those that work 40 hours can support themselves and a family. I'd like to see parents able to support their kids and be able to see each other so their relationships aren't broken from lack of contact. I'd like to see a smart poor kid have the same opportunities and likelihood of acheivement as an idiot whose parents donated money to Harvard. I'd like to see people not stretched to the limit by laissez faire, supply and demand, highest bidder only economics that force people to have to choose between rent and food.
The following quotes are from Abraham Lincoln and reflect his philosophies at the birth of the Republican party.
I am a Lincolnian at heart and feel if our party was more cognizant of our roots we would connect with many more Americans.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
Abraham Lincoln
"Republicans are for both the man and the dollar, but in case of conflict the man before the dollar."
Abraham Lincoln
"These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people."
Abraham Lincoln
My comment about teachers is not flat out wrong. I'm right here in the middle of it.
Everyone chooses their own career is simply another excuse to exploit people just because their profession doesn't involve tinkering with a computer or manipulating money. Instead of excuses, offer solutions. I suppose you don't even see a problem though.
Again I'm talking about making ends meet and a tiny amount for savings without breaking yourself or alienating everyone around you. I'm not talking about amassing a giant fortune.
As am I "right in the middle of it" - with someone who is approaching 90K in a school district.
We come back to the FACT you want income equalization - why don't you admit it.
No. I'll appreciate it if you don't put words in my mouth. I would rather see America as a blossoming place of opportunity. Where those that work 40 hours can support themselves and a family. I'd like to see parents able to support their kids and be able to see each other so their relationships aren't broken from lack of contact. I'd like to see a smart poor kid have the same opportunities and likelihood of acheivement as an idiot whose parents donated money to Harvard. I'd like to see people not stretched to the limit by laissez faire, supply and demand, highest bidder only economics that force people to have to choose between rent and food.
Your writings above are indicative of a socialistic society - is that what you desire?
Your writings above are indicative of a socialistic society - is that what you desire?
Anyone would desire such a thing (whatever it is) in contrast to the picture of denial, neglect, and exploitation that you paint. You and people like you are the Socialisticals greatest recruiting tool...
The key is balance. Markets are better today than they were in the past because of better access. Approximately 70% of Americans today have some interest in the market with more and more Americans are funding their own retirements.
That being said, there isn't always enough personal accountability concerning the management of the funds. Fund managers acting alone or in concert can pump up or take down a companies stock. The government is also a big part of the problem making it too complicated for many people necessitating an over-reliance on so called "expert advisors" who are often more interested in establishing mulitiple income streams for themselves over concerning themselves with their client's future needs.
For example, yesterday I tried to roll my current 403b out of a TSA approved by my previous employer into a self-managed Vanguard fund. The former was one of the few "approved" options when I started 14 years ago and has underperformed the market and my personal investments. I was told that no rollovers could take place until Jan 2009 when revised regulations from the federal government are worked out.
It is unacceptable when our pension plans are "defined" and management of our money is "limited!"
Anyone would desire such a thing (whatever it is) in contrast to the picture of denial, neglect, and exploitation that you paint. You and people like you are the Socialisticals greatest recruiting tool...
I agree. Socialists abhor individualists who aren't willing to succumb to those who what to redistribute wealth and who support income equalization.
I agree. Socialists abhor individualists who aren't willing to succumb to those who what to redistribute wealth and who support income equalization.
Yes, the IRS abhors tax cheats, and retail establishments abhor shoplifters. These 'individualists' of yours are the same bird but with slightly different feathers.
As has been pointed out (often), income redistribution is one of the central reasons why societies exist in the first place, and great heroes such as Reagan and this W clown of yours were and are up to their necks in it.
Support of a thing called 'income equalization' has meanwhile come from no one other than the strawman caricature that a particular poster regularly invites into the discussion when he has run out of anything actually pertinent to say. That guy definitely supports income equalization, but there is no evidence in support of the theory that that guy exists anywhere but in one rather detached man's imagination...
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Support of a thing called 'income equalization' has meanwhile come from no one other than the strawman caricature that <GreatDay> regularly invites into the discussion when he has run out of anything actually pertinent to say. That guy definitely supports income equalization, but there is no evidence in support of the theory that that guy exists anywhere but in one rather detached man's imagination...
Rather rude comment - borders on a personal attack which, as I understand it, is a violation of the TOS
But of course, your premise is totally false - on all accounts.
Income equalization is the farthest thing from my mind and my very being. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. One should earn whatever they can - and be allowed to keep as much as they can. Period.
I disagree with government welfare programs. And, as I have noted previously, I "unsubscribed" from the biggest one - Social Security.
And, as far as my "existence" - its quite real. Much to your opposition in your mind
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