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Old 01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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The key word is someone, as in NOT me.

I did make a definition of what I consider a baseline level that everyone should live.
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Once you start bringing home annual bonuses that are more than the median American's annual salary, then it is more about power than anything else. How much money does someone really need?
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:33 PM
 
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Once you start bringing home annual bonuses that are more than the median American's annual salary, then it is more about power than anything else. How much money does someone really need?
Yes, and what dollar figure does that represent to you? The median American annual salary is in the mid-40's range. Ergo a person who is making $40K bonuses is making at least $500K a year. That is no longer middle class. And, that is nowhere close to the top 1%, but a fraction of it.
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Yes, and what dollar figure does that represent to you? The median American annual salary is in the mid-40's range. Ergo a person who is making $40K bonuses is making at least $500K a year. That is no longer middle class. And, that is nowhere close to the top 1%, but a fraction of it.
Do you then describe this person as "rich"?
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Do you then describe this person as "rich"?
In value, yes. However, they may not be "rich" as in flaunting money due to restrictions based off of spenditures.
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:35 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Yes, and what dollar figure does that represent to you? The median American annual salary is in the mid-40's range. Ergo a person who is making $40K bonuses is making at least $500K a year. That is no longer middle class. And, that is nowhere close to the top 1%, but a fraction of it.
And I stated earlier in the thread that I work with plenty of people who make a significant amount of money in bonus... well over 40k per year. And they make under 200k a year in total compensation.

Now I know some doctors make well over 200k per year... and by your definition, they're middle class.

So is $500k per year the new definition of rich?
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Now I know some doctors make well over 200k per year... and by your definition, they're middle class.

So is $500k per year the new definition of rich?
I honestly dunno and have no idea, but I wouldn't call them poor tho.
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I honestly dunno and have no idea, but I wouldn't call them poor tho.
It would depend on where they are living in part -

For instance, if they are living in San Fran, where the median price home is in the 600's, 500k might be "poor" or only middle class.

On the other hand, if they reside in Kansas City, KA, where the median price is 125K, then they might be upper middle class.

Just depends
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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In my book you are only poor when you can't afford food and lodging.
Then again, I like to keep it simple.
I guess my relatives in Indonesia would never call me poor, but the average Dutch guy would call me poor.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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In my book you are only poor when you can't afford food and lodging. Then again, I like to keep it simple. I guess my relatives in Indonesia would never call me poor, but the average Dutch guy would call me poor.
But, when is someone "rich" (financially)?

This is a constant debate here in America.

Personally, I don't consider one to be financially rich, based on their annual income, unless they are earning 2 million a year or more.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:17 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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But, when is someone "rich" (financially)?
You are rich when you are not poor.
Like I said before; I like to keep it simple.
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