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Old 07-10-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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You havent seen family do Meth apparently. Seriously that stuffs just bad. REAL bad.
My step-daughter spent a year in prison for meth, so your guess is incorrect. Regardless, stating a fact, as I did, does not equate to "meth isn't bad." I don't know where you got that from. Certainly not my post. To illustrate, I've seen countless lives ruined by gambling, yet that is not only legal, it is my state's largest industry.
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suggest we legalize recreational drugs and Federalize the private prison industry. That would cripple the drug gangs and defund the private prison rip-off. then our police departments could concentrate on preventing and solving violent crime.
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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'Residents of two states voted to legalize marijuana in 2012, but despite an increase in public support for liberalizing drug policy, American police arrested about the same number of people last year on pot-related charges as in 2011.

Data released Monday by the Federal Bureau of Investigation show there were an estimated 1,552,432 arrests for drug-related crimes in 2012 – a slight uptick from the 1,531,251 drug arrests in 2011.

Police Made One Marijuana Arrest Every 42 Seconds in 2012 - US News

War on drugs a trillion-dollar failure - CNN.com
1. 100% agree.

2. As more states see the tax revenue Colorado is raking in....expect a rush for a piece of that pie. Heck, even KS has casino gambling now after watching gambling tax revenues flow across state lines. Morals get trumped by dollars.

I'm personally shocked at how legalization has gained momentum. Overdue IMO.
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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I suggest we legalize recreational drugs and Federalize the private prison industry. That would cripple the drug gangs and defund the private prison rip-off. then our police departments could concentrate on preventing and solving violent crime.
I've had that discussion with my friend whom has criminally defended big time drug dealers, petty users and everything inbetween over the years.

While it will deal a blow to organized crime, you will merely force them to branch out into different areas.

After prohibition ended, the mafia pushed harder into hijacking and extortion etc.

A drug dealer making 100k a year isn't going to just shrug and head down to Subway to apply for an $8/hr. job. He's going to find something new to do.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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If the other areas were as profitable then they'd be in them now. It's monumentally harder to build an organized crime business with crimes like extortion and hijacking. With drugs, both parties want to be very quiet about their actions. With regular crime, only one party is interested in it and the chances of getting caught are much different.

Defunding organized crime is a better way. Taking Marijuana out of their hands means that they have one less cash cow from which to draw. It pulls resources and people away from them and makes it easier for the feds to focus on real drugs.

A drug dealer making $100k is most likely a low level criminal. He or she isn't going to suddenly start knocking over armored trucks. They would just continue to sell other drugs that they likely already sell and they would just make less money.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Time to legalize cannabis and tax the THC out of it. No need to arrest anyone. Have the same restrictions as we have for alcohol consumption.

$50 an ounce tax would help the treasury and empty the jails. Plus it would put drug cartels out of business. We learned that lesson with the repel of prohibition.
I agree, this is something that should have already happened.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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My step-daughter spent a year in prison for meth, so your guess is incorrect. Regardless, stating a fact, as I did, does not equate to "meth isn't bad." I don't know where you got that from. Certainly not my post. To illustrate, I've seen countless lives ruined by gambling, yet that is not only legal, it is my state's largest industry.
I cannot in good conscience believe that legalizing meth given its addictiveness and damage is a good idea. Gambling ruins lives financially.....Meth ruins peoples brains, and lives, while being pretty darn addicting.

Is the difference that you believe people should have the right to do anything to themselves? I kinda get behind that. The problem I have is that Meth is so dang addicting and dangerous.

Yeah a part of me loves the individual freedom idea, but the other part of me says that the addictiveness and danger of this makes it different. This stuffs bad.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: chicago area
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The American public truly have Reefer Madness....MADNESS!
Whole country is going to pot!
LOL!
lmao potmerica

i dont know where or what to say its like different choice marriage so fought over and protested by both sides

would it really cut crime

thats marginal crack coke all the others keep the jails full to and crime high

i watched a documentary once i forget all of the details but it was about Mexican drug cartels using

a line from Texas dont know other states and goes through Chicago IL

allot of Texas sheriffs have been killed or corrupted by this

drugs are like guns no real solution because there is always a way to get them

thats my opinion dont beat me please


thanks have a good one
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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Regardless, laws dont prevent the usage of those drugs, just forces them underground. And if it were legal would you suddenly start doing meth?
Sorry, but we need to take away the governments power to dictate what we put in our own bodies
Problem with that is society ends up paying for the human refuse based on personal choice. Not me. I will not use my money to pay to dry out some idiot because they thought it okay to fry their brain.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Problem with that is society ends up paying for the human refuse based on personal choice. Not me. I will not use my money to pay to dry out some idiot because they thought it okay to fry their brain.
Yes you will. Who's paying to incarcerate all these people now?
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