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The reform includes border security. Reagan's amnesty was amnesty, because it simply legalized illegals already in the country, but the current proposal would require 13 years of jumping through the hoops before made legal. Besides, from what I have read the Dems have said they would talk about a reform which did not include path to citizenship.
DUDE!!! It wasn't Reagan's amnesty, it was Tip O'neill's amnesty.
To put that bill through is like the tail wagging the dog. Hell, the $3.85B, Obama just got yesterday, doesn't even go to the border, but to illegals already here. It's smoke and mirrors, and the Pubs aren't falling for the same scam. Thank God... Obama is finally going to have to do something himself!
Correct HR15 is the House version of that Senate bill, and has 193 co-sponsors. The bill would authorize funds to build a double fence (triple fence in hot-spots), and boost the number of border patrol, and get National Guard involved, add electronic surveillance etc. The House refuses to vote on it, while 80% of Americans say they want them to act.
When you read the bill thoroughly, it clearly states that the border must be secure first before dealing with any aspect of those illegals already here.
So, fence first.........illegals second. Exactly what the republicans are screaming about now.
When you read the bill thoroughly, it clearly states that the border must be secure first before dealing with any aspect of those illegals already here.
So, fence first.........illegals second. Exactly what the republicans are screaming about now.
I am pretty sure the republicans are screaming about securing the border and demonstating the border is secure BEFORE we pass any immigration bill.
DUDE!!! It wasn't Reagan's amnesty, it was Tip O'Neal's amnesty.
To put that bill through is like the tail wagging the dog. Hell, the $3.85B, Obama just got yesterday, doesn't even go to the border, but to illegals already here. It's smoke and mirrors, and the Pubs aren't falling for the same scam. Thank God... Obama is finally going to have to do something himself!
Do you have any idea how much the political, immigration and economic landscape has changed since 1986? That's 30 years and 5 presidents! three of them Republican. Any one of them could have enforced the Reagan immigration reform bill at any time. The problem then, and the problem now is they passed a bill but Congress didn't fund it enough to be effective.
Now, same, same. No money from Congress. Just yelling at the president to do something while they tie his hands behind his back.
Do you have any idea how much the political, immigration and economic landscape has changed since 1986? That's 30 years and 5 presidents! three of them Republican. Any one of them could have enforced the Reagan immigration reform bill at any time. The problem then, and the problem now is they passed a bill but Congress didn't fund it enough to be effective.
Now, same, same. No money from Congress. Just yelling at the president to do something while they tie his hands behind his back.
He doesn't need money from congress to secure the border.
Just protect the dadgummed border. Period. The Constitution requires that.
Problem is, Barry won't do it and will block any hint of doing so. Forget that he won't work with Congress.
you know sometimes, i think barry sits around reading the Constitution to figure out how many ways he can spit on it, defy it, and generally do exactly opposite of what it says without getting called out.
I am asking if that is what they mean, because they insist the president must seal the border, but they won't answer where the money will come from.
Only Congress can authorize it, and the poster in question (not you) says there is no need for bills to authorize the money, so I ask if he is talking about a blank check.
Do you want to answer for him, because he sure isn't answering it?
They want the fence, but refuse to pay for it.
It was already paid for. There was money voted on in 2006 (I believe) to build a fence. Now all these years later, and Obama hasn't done his job. Which is to allocate those funds.
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