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Old 03-26-2008, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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You said 100% of the people in your prior post. I am Cuban also. And I have Cuban friends with these "degrees'. Also, I lived in Miami for the past 8 years, in Westchester, the MOST Cuban neighborhood in Dade. Nooo. Hialeah is second to Westchester by 1%.

So, I know exactly what I say.

Many of the lawyers, doctors, engineers in Miami, are the old school folks. The ones who settled Miami pre-mariel.

Then you have the new arrivals who talk "asere" this and "asere" that. I haven't met one doctor among any of them. And I have come across lots.

Those figures you quoted, if from the Cuban government, are misleading.

That was my point. Don't make arguments based off some stats that Castro has put out there, to make the world think Cuba is something it is not.

And free healthcare. The most doctor's per capital than anywhere in the world (another stat from Castro). Great..all these doctors and no medical supplies or equipment to heal the sick. So he ships them out to Venezuela in exchange for free oil.

Don't think the USA needs or wants Cuba as a territory. It's a big mess, and I don't think we want to clean it up. For what? There's no oil or anything of value to us.
Please read CAREFULLY. This is what I wrote.

Most, close to 100% of Cubans in Cuba are educated.

Did I say 100%???? I don't think so.

I am not taking stats from Castro. This is my personal knowledge base.

Funny, I do not know any Cubans in my circle who speak with Asere, or Que vola, or Monina, except my boyfriend's cousin who happens to be a Phys Ed instructor BTW, and we joke around with the vocabulary.

Those old timers you're talking about are established in their professions here, after they washed dishes and scrubbed floors for a very long time. The ones I know NOW have come here within the last 4 to 8 years.

I was just talking to my orthopod friend because my boyfriend has carpal tunnel. His wife is a pathologist. They are both doing nursing now.

I don't live in Westchester or Hialeah.

I know there are no supplies to care for the sick and that's sickening!

I never said the US wants Cuba or that we want to clean it up. But you see all the tourists flocking to Dominican Republic and Jamaica and Puerto Rico? Wait till we can go to Cuba LEGALLY. Americans will LOVE Cuba.

Don't think I am unamerican. I grew up in this country. I have been here 46, going on 47 years. I am as american as red white & blue and Oh say can you see but I can't deny that there's Cuban blood running in my veins either.

Last edited by vpcats; 03-26-2008 at 07:20 PM.. Reason: misquoted # of years here.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:17 PM
 
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Why don't you tell us why?

I was talking with a client of mine recently, who happens to ba a very successful cuban businessman, I asked him in view of the recent situation in
Cuba, whether he would consider moving back to Cuba, he answered; "If the situation there normalizes,I would move back in a heartbeat!", he explained, "you see, we have tried to keep our traditions in Miami, successfuly to a degree, but deep inside we always long for Cuba, United States is a country without soul, and to become an american you have to lose your soul".
I am happy to have been born an American, but I have traveled extensively,
and realize that most people in the world have absolutely no interest of becoming americans, which is contrary to the beleif of so many people here who beleive that the rest of the world is in line to come here.
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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vpcats and barinnas: check it out........

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Old 04-22-2008, 11:18 AM
 
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I was talking with a client of mine recently, who happens to ba a very successful cuban businessman, I asked him in view of the recent situation in
Cuba, whether he would consider moving back to Cuba, he answered; "If the situation there normalizes,I would move back in a heartbeat!", he explained, "you see, we have tried to keep our traditions in Miami, successfuly to a degree, but deep inside we always long for Cuba, United States is a country without soul, and to become an american you have to lose your soul".
I am happy to have been born an American, but I have traveled extensively,
and realize that most people in the world have absolutely no interest of becoming americans, which is contrary to the beleif of so many people here who beleive that the rest of the world is in line to come here.
"If the situation there normalizes,I would move back in a heartbeat!"
Yeap!
I came over when I was 7 years old.
I am now 47 and have never returned.
I too would if it somewhat "normalized." I mean I wouldn't expect any nirvana.
But sure, why not? If it went Socialist with rights to private ownership, for sure.
Yes, it'd be a mess. So what? Things here aren't looking that promising anyways.
And, please do not give me that I have a duty to stay here... the country that took me in as a child.... won't resonate (not after these last 8 years)
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vpcats and barinnas: check it out........

Generation Y
nice link, really hard to believe she is posting from Cuba. If she is and she is not a provocateur, then she has a bigger pair than 99% of us males.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I'm buying Cuban property and some of those old American cars as soon as it's legal (maybe even a little before.) I'd love to have a place in Cuba, post Castro. IMO it will open up pretty quickly after Castro dies.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:42 AM
 
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.....Kennedy chickened out.
I for one am glad he did; otherwise, both of us would be but floating nuclear vapor gases floating among the trade winds in the Caribbean.
There were tactical nuclear weapons in Cuba under Soviet control. Do you think a Soviet General 18 years after Stalingrad would have surrendered with 50+ tactical short range nukes? (range 50 miles +-)
I don't think so.
By the by, Khrushchev defended successfully Stalingrad in a battle that degenerated into 12 year olds fighting tanks and cannibalism.
Great documentary "Fog of War" has Robert S. McNamara view on the crisis.
Although the movie mainly deals with Vietnam, the insights into the missile crisis are invaluable.
McNamara: "In the end we lucked out!...We lucked out!"
Sergei Khrushchev (son): "But this invasion was very risky, and high possibility that it will be the beginning of the third world war, but they still pressed the president and president upholds this. I think we were very lucky that both leaders did not lose control over this situation. And so this crisis ended peacefully."
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