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Old 07-13-2014, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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As with many progressives once they are personally confronted with the ideology they profess, they seem to have second thoughts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/ny...?smid=tw-share
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“I’m an extremely progressive liberal and the best kind,” said Mr. Doeblin, 53. “I’ve been able to keep a community bookstore alive in this neighborhood, and I don’t let ideology get in my way.”

And for that, customers in this liberal stronghold have unabashedly (until quite recently) sung his praises. To many, he is a lanky warrior for the written word, celebrated for creating and sustaining an intellectual haven in the neighborhood for nearly two decades.

At least that’s how things stood until last month, when his workers voted to unionize. On June 24, just hours after the vote, Mr. Doeblin announced in an email to staff members that he had fired two employees for joining the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. By June 26, he had fired three more.

Mr. Doeblin said four of the dismissed employees were managers who were ineligible to take part in the vote and who had “undermined” his business by bringing in the union. (The employees countered that they were supervisors in name only.) He fired the fifth worker after accusing her of eavesdropping.
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL..the libs are such NIMBYs
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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If he was so progressive he should have been making his employees happy all along, right?

And then he's using the typical retail scam of calling folks managers, working them manager hours but not offering mangers pay. He deserved a union.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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Practice what I say, not what I do... The "intellectual liberal" mantra...
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This brings to mind Amazon.com. Founder Jeff Bezos donates mostly to Democrats, and early investor Nick Hanauer is a big time progressive. But Amazon has fought unionization with just as much tenacity as Wal-Mart.

Amazon's anti-union strategy hits a snag - The Week

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As a global powerhouse that employs 100,000 people around the world, Amazon has long opposed unions. Over the last decade it has successfully obstructed workers' efforts to unionize in the United States, even as it has weathered criticism over working conditions and class-action lawsuits about pay.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Look out for yourself first. I see nothing wrong with that. Not all extremely progressive liberals believe in unions. ugh defending liberals, bath time for me again.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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If he was so progressive he should have been making his employees happy all along, right?

And then he's using the typical retail scam of calling folks managers, working them manager hours but not offering mangers pay. He deserved a union.
Or offering them manager's pay as salary so he can work them to the bone and not have to pay hourly wages.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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This brings to mind Amazon.com. Founder Jeff Bezos donates mostly to Democrats, and early investor Nick Hanauer is a big time progressive. But Amazon has fought unionization with just as much tenacity as Wal-Mart.

Amazon's anti-union strategy hits a snag - The Week
So where are all the anti-Amazon threads on this forum? I've seen a couple of mentions of Amazon, usually in a bash Walmart thread, but for some reason I never seem to see a huge backlash against them. Is it because they're on the Internet, and therefore "cool"? Or maybe it's because their shoppers aren't able to be photographed dressing their fat bodies in unflattering clothes?
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:41 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
This brings to mind Amazon.com. Founder Jeff Bezos donates mostly to Democrats, and early investor Nick Hanauer is a big time progressive. But Amazon has fought unionization with just as much tenacity as Wal-Mart.

Amazon's anti-union strategy hits a snag - The Week
you know your lies can be googled right ?

The politics of Jeff Bezos - The Washington Post

Arguing that someone is a Democrat is not the same as saying they support unions.

Not every Republican is against gay marriage, or anti union.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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So where are all the anti-Amazon threads on this forum? I've seen a couple of mentions of Amazon, usually in a bash Walmart thread, but for some reason I never seem to see a huge backlash against them. Is it because they're on the Internet, and therefore "cool"? Or maybe it's because their shoppers aren't able to be photographed dressing their fat bodies in unflattering clothes?

Amazon is just the Walmart of the internet. The only difference is that Jeff Bezos has been crafty enough to donate to pay of Democrats and thus avoid all the bad publicity that WalMart has reaped.
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