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Old 07-15-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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I would like this to be an adult and civil debate. I'll start by stating who a person dates or sleeps with is none of my business and I don't wish to make it my business. However, on a moral level, I don't agree with homosexuality and miscegenation. If I see a gay or interracial couple in the street, I don't give them a mean stare or special attention - I pass them as I would any other person. I don't go on crusades, blasting them. I pretty much keep it to myself unless people directly ask, and then I reveal what I think. Why do some people, particularly liberals, always feel the need to be outraged when I reveal my views on the topic? Sometimes it is as if I just beheaded a baby. I'm not hurting anyone - I don't heckle or hurl verbal abuse towards gays or interracial couples. I just don't agree with them. What's so wrong about that? It's my right.

How do you know they are Liberals? "particularly liberals",

Were they wearing a badge or name tags?

 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Maybe whites are superior leaders or superior strategists, which is why they can win at tactical teams sports. Is it so hard to believe that God would differentiate the races by giving them superior capabilities in different areas? Why separate the races if you don't intend for them to be different?
This is so weird. Someone who defends gay rights but then trods out the cliche white supremacist beliefs at the same time. Seems like mixing electricity with water. Unless you were baiting the OP. Then I apologise
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Legally it is not your right to refuse a business deal for personal reasons.
Sure it is. You can refuse business for ANY personal reason you'd like to unless you ADMIT to discrimination. Just don't admit to it and you're fine. All you have to say is "I'm all booked up".
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It is quite obvious a couple is a couple when they are walking side by side and holding hands.
No, you misunderstand me. I have seen people of various races that do not look like the stereotype one might have of that race. I have also seen women who looked kind of masculine and men who look kind of feminine. So without spending a lot of time looking at them, or asking, how do you automatically know?

For example, I have known people from the Indian continent who are very dark, and some who are very light. Same with African Americans. How do you know who has what ancestry? Where you live, do they have to wear something on their clothing to let you know? Because if they don't and if you aren't asking them directly, I maintain that you just by default, you must at times be mistaken in knowing who offends you and who does not.

I can understand it as a purely philosophical stance (although I'm not on board) but as a practical matter it has some flaws in the execution.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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OP - I'm in an interracial relationship. Funny thing is I used to be racist when I was a kid. A hardcore racist, until I grew up and went to university, meeting people of different colours and realising we're all just human beings. My family (still racists) heavily objects to me dating a black man and they often come up with the same argument you are presenting. Yes, you're right - you are very much entitled to your views. But other people are also entitled to find those views objectionable.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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WTF? The NBA is dominated by African Americans. By definition African Americans make the difference in championships! When was the last time an all white team won the NBA title. Even Larry Bird had black team members supporting him.

Even more, how many Soccer players globally in size alone could ever play basketball at the NBA level? Most guys in the NBA and many from the NFL would excel at any sport they played.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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How do you know they are Liberals? "particularly liberals",

Were they wearing a badge or name tags?
Liberals are the ones that brand everything as homophobic and racist.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Even more, how many Soccer players globally in size alone could ever play basketball at the NBA level? Most guys in the NBA and many from the NFL would excel at any sport they played.
Absolute garbage!! Just because you're big, strong and fast, it doesn't mean you can make an impact. Put any one of the NBA or NFL folks on the soccer pitch and they would be like bewildered children. There are plenty of physical beasts in soccer but they suck because they lack the technical ability. Look at one of the best players in soccer history. Leo Messi. He's 5'7 and thin as a stick, but yet he will go down as one of the greatest ever. Pele wasn't big. Neither was Maradona. Yet they are considered to be the best two players ever not because of their size and speed, but because of the technical ability and genius they had with their feet.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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on a moral level, I don't agree with ... miscegenation.
What about people born mixed race? Who, according to you, can they morally breed with?

For instance, what race do you consider Barack Obama: black, white, or half-black/half-white? What race is it moral for him, in your opinion, to mate with? Was it wrong and immoral of him to mate with Michelle and pollute her pure black genes?

For a mixed race person to be moral, does he or she have to remain celibate?
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Liberals are the ones that brand everything as homophobic and racist.
If the shoe fits lace that ***** up and wear it.
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