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Old 09-03-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz
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Community gardens at a local level seem like a good idea to me. However, more and more this is being restricted.
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Begun as both Karma Yoga and a Landmark Education Leadership project, the goal for “We Grow From Here” was to attain 75% personal food independence for all involved, as well as ‘produce’ing a steady stream of fresh, healthy abundance to local food banks, homeless shelters, and soup kitchens. (It came closer to 90% within 9 months!)

Update on the Court Case for Casa Seranita and Growing Food in Pinellas County
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I have also learned some things about these codes–such as I may have been completely within my rights to begin with (see: ambiguity), since the residents of the house at the time the initial violations were reported were involved in the project. Not only that, but the whole project completely falls within the reasonable boundaries of what is defined as ‘special exceptions’.


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It appears that our state has spent the federal stimulus money on more inspectors to crack down on small farmers, home cottage industries and herbalists that sell their wonderful and healthy products at various public markets. Recent ‘busts’ at Tampa Bay area markets are extremely disturbing., and involve dumping entire inventories of healthy FOOD and natural products

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Great links, very informative!
It would be nice if they could budget to start these Community Gardens in every town. It's gotta save money while getting people healthy in the end
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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The document is old and wrong. The income for one person is $1245

Eligibility | Food and Nutrition Service
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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These programs seem to have much confusion around them. State sites often show different information than federal. They are implemented at the state level, however. So it seems to vary. Generalizing certainly is just that.
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Most able-bodied students ages 18 through 49 who are enrolled in college or other institutions of higher education at least half time are not eligible for SNAP benefits. However, students may be able to get SNAP benefits if otherwise eligible and they:

I did see some information pointing to changes here. Looks like in the 80s they studied counting financial aid as income. Not sure what was done.

College students can only get SNAP if they have a child, work 20 hours per week or get Work Study.

Financial Aide income is not counted.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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For food stamps, a household consists of people who eat and share food together, e.g. the typical family. People who share housing but do not eat or share food together would be considered different households, e.g. people who rent rooms in a house like I do. The typical case of scamming the system is probably the unmarried cohabiting couple who eat together and claim not to be a single household. This usually involves a low-income partner who is individually eligible (perhaps SAHM) and a higher-income partner who is not eligible; they would be ineligible if considered a single household.
A fellow that helps me with yard work, under the table pay, lives with his daughter, her husband, her child and their child, plus the husbands two sisters that move in and out of the house. The two sisters and the husband are on SS disability, the daughter works sporadically, the dad, my helper works when I have money but he is a convicted felon. They are all on food stamps. The dad and his brother have sold their food stamps, at times, for cigarette money and a little weed. It is an interesting arrangement.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Now take taxes out of the 1815, rounds to about 1450 a month.

Thats 362 dollars a week take home.

It takes about 400 a month to feed my family of 4. So you're down 25% of your income for food straight out of the gate. Don't forget rent, usually around 5 to 600 a month even for small places. Electricity runs about 100 a month, water about the same.

Now we're down to abut 350 a month. Now fuel. Now clothes. Now if you need internet for your kids to do school work, almost mandatory now. Now a car payment, 200 a month. Now insurance for that car. Have to have a car and insurance to get to work in most places.

The point is, 1800 a month, before taxes, isn't that much to live on.
Let's chuck the "mandatory internet" for kids if we're talking about $1800/mo for a family of one.
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Let's also:

1. return to food STAMPS to be used for FOOD ONLY instead of EBT cards which amount to yet another cash grant.

2.Mandate budgeting training for all assistance recipients.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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The dad and his brother have sold their food stamps, at times, for cigarette money and a little weed. It is an interesting arrangement.
I hope you reported this.
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Old 09-04-2014, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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1. return to food STAMPS to be used for FOOD ONLY instead of EBT cards which amount to yet another cash grant.
Food stamps cannot be used for anything other than food/drinks. People may illegally sell $200 worth of food stamps for $100 cash or something like that but the card itself must be used on food.

Cash benefits-which is only offered to people with children and $0 income- do not limit how you can spend the cash but there are work and training requirements (I think at least 20 hours a week or so) and the amount is like $205 per month per person.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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College students can only get SNAP if they have a child, work 20 hours per week or get Work Study.

Financial Aide income is not counted.
The income thing mentioned was from a study they looked at in the 80s. So the reference was to possible past changes, not current requirements. However, current requirements were in the link I posted.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Great links, very informative!
It would be nice if they could budget to start these Community Gardens in every town. It's gotta save money while getting people healthy in the end
Those are all private. Govt agencies have been non-supportive of this it appears. One has to look at where their investments are held to see why private gardens are not favored. The vast majority of food cost is transportation and energy, NM a great deal is thrown away.

However, there are people out there doing what they can.
Former MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan quits TV to run organic ...
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz
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Those are all private. Govt agencies have been non-supportive of this it appears. One has to look at where their investments are held to see why private gardens are not favored. The vast majority of food cost is transportation and energy, NM a great deal is thrown away.

However, there are people out there doing what they can.
Former MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan quits TV to run organic ...
Amazing! Here's a quote

"The couple explained to him a technique for hydroponic farming that reportedly uses 90 percent less water than a conventional farm, but produces three times as much food"

They are located in San Deigo. We in California are going thru such a drought right now...this is so needed (aside from the food stamps aspect)
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