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View Poll Results: Should We Be Spending Money on Illegals or Veterans?
Illegals 3 3.57%
Veterans 69 82.14%
Other, Explain 11 13.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-19-2014, 05:03 PM
 
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Who is going to complain if someone hires illegals as casual labor for less than minimum or doesn't pay them at all? This happens all the time on farms in the west who can count on a new batch of laborers the next month. Things haven't changed since the Dust Bowl migrations. How many agents do we have investigating hiring practices in the agricultural sector?
I'd complain if I knew about it and I believe most loyal Americans would also. Take these illegals out in front of Home Deport soliciting for odd jobs. If we called ICE do you actually think they'd come and get them? Our hands are tied. As for ag workers only 3% of illegals are doing those jobs. The other 97% are doing jobs that Americans have always been willing to do. I hope these protests across the country this weekend is just a start in Americans forcing our government and the employers to start honoring our immigration laws. Things have changed since the Dust Bowl days. We have millions of illegals here today compared to then and it is taking its toll on this country and its citizens.
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Old 07-19-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Who is going to complain if someone hires illegals as casual labor for less than minimum or doesn't pay them at all? This happens all the time on farms in the west who can count on a new batch of laborers the next month. Things haven't changed since the Dust Bowl migrations. How many agents do we have investigating hiring practices in the agricultural sector?
Live a criminal lifestyle and you elect to risk the consequences. Who would complain if a car thief got ripped off by the chop shop? If the pimp didn't pay the prostitute, if buyer doesn't pay the dealer?
These illegals made a choice. That choice is to live as criminals. There is no honor among thieves. That is a myth.
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Old 07-20-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Live a criminal lifestyle and you elect to risk the consequences. Who would complain if a car thief got ripped off by the chop shop? If the pimp didn't pay the prostitute, if buyer doesn't pay the dealer?
These illegals made a choice. That choice is to live as criminals. There is no honor among thieves. That is a myth.
The biggest thieves of the bunch are the ones who hired them at short wages, and the ones who work and feed them but never actually pay them anything.

They made the choice to screw the people who came to work for them in good faith.
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Old 07-20-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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The biggest thieves of the bunch are the ones who hired them at short wages, and the ones who work and feed them but never actually pay them anything.

They made the choice to screw the people who came to work for them in good faith.
Good faith? They don't even have a right to work or reside in this country. I feel no sympathy for those who break the law and then get screwed around for it. I hold illegal aliens just as accountable as their greedy employers.

As for thievery, illegals take jobs knowing full well they are stealing jobs from Americans by offering to work for less.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Who is going to complain if someone hires illegals as casual labor for less than minimum or doesn't pay them at all? This happens all the time on farms in the west who can count on a new batch of laborers the next month. Things haven't changed since the Dust Bowl migrations. How many agents do we have investigating hiring practices in the agricultural sector?
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The biggest thieves of the bunch are the ones who hired them at short wages, and the ones who work and feed them but never actually pay them anything.

They made the choice to screw the people who came to work for them in good faith.
Do you complain when you see that an illegal has been hired? When you say "the west", where, exactly, are you referring to? When you go to Home Depot and see those guys hanging out waiting for some other guy in a pick-up to pull up and tell them that they have work for the day, do you do any investigating? Or do you just continue on in to Home Depot so as not to appear racist?

What about the lawn guys? I know, I know, it sounds so racist, but the fact is, a good load of lawn care guys are not legal. And it's not just in the west, there's PLENTY of it going in the east, as well.

What do YOU do about illegals that are hired, besides posting on a forum that everyone else needs to do something?
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Mandatory jail time for anyone who knowingly hires illegals would stop the problem immediately. No one except the terminally stupid would hire anyone who was suspect. What do you think would be more effective?
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:42 PM
 
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Intercept all the money illegals send 'home', and spend that on the veterans.
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We have gotten what good we can out of them and they should make it on their own just like non vets do. They have GI bill and a couple of benefits like loans and that is enough. Close the hospitals except to those who were actually wounded in war - and not this PTSD nonsense.

Illegals though need our help. If we don't give it to them, they will take it in crime and violence. Illegals also hold down wages which makes our corporations more profitable. This money trickles down to all Americans as Reagan's economists explained.
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Old 07-20-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Moonbats spend money on votes and veterans are not generally moonbats. Now a chit ton of illegals looking for handouts now THAT is where moonbTs like to spend the middle class tax payer money.
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Old 07-20-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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The Border Patrol budget is $12 billion the VA budget is $150 billion. The Senate just approved spending another $50 billion for VA health care. Every veteran will receive an average of $10,000 worth of benefits per year. By contrast illegals will receive about $22 billion in benefits or less. Thats spread among 12 million or so. As a tax payer would you rather spend $200 billion for the VA or $22 billion for illegals. I vote for getting hosed for $200 billion when I send in a check every April. After all $200 billion is less than $22 billion.
So you would support lawbreakers because its cheaper?
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