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Old 07-27-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Originally Posted by Mihaike View Post
representatives of the government and of the U.S. intelligence has already made a statement who fired and who ordered shoot at the plane...
That's a big issue! Yeah, they made a statement... But they LIE as usual. (After 9/11 they lie almost everytime). There is no any real proof of their loud words.
If you will understand what is point, intention and aim of the US foreign policy then you will understand why they are lying and why they're stubbornly ignoring real facts, documents and data submitted by other side.

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Ukraine even have radio interceptions for the occasion.
Please provide us with a link to this fake or allegation.

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Originally Posted by Mihaike View Post
even supplying the East of Ukraine by weapons the Rf is fighting against civil aircraft...
You are just parroting the US govt accusation rhetoric that has no base.
Again, the RF didn't supply the rebels with the BUK system. I have already mentioned above in this thread that Putin is not an idiot to do it. If Putin would have supplied the rebels with some modern powerful weapons then the civil war would already have ended in april with the home guards victory.
You better ask yourself why there is no any real satellite images were represented that could prove the rebels used the BUK? I give you a hint - those images shows that Ukrainian army shot down the malaysian plane.
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/20...ee-in-ukraine/

 
Old 07-27-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Obama don't need no proof.

If he thinks it, it's true. Just ask the Bots.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The Britons have them, not the Dutch. But the UK are the US ally and there is no any garantee that the flight data would be corrected in a favour of the US proofless version. And the EU will be subserviently silent to it.
So the UK is on this too? Who else is in on the conspiracy? I just want to keep up here.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Contact RT1, they'll send you a "How to blame everybody but us" spreadsheet.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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So the UK is on this too? Who else is in on the conspiracy? I just want to keep up here.
Sorry, but from what I said and what you're asking me, I can't see any logic connection.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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For the deniers, forget the governments and agencies involved. Here's the deal: transmissions leave lots of foot prints. Ordinary tech geeks can trace this stuff in minutes, and they did. The Russian backed rebels were caught red handed (pardon the pun).
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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We could go GWB and invade, I dunno, Portugal?
Or go OBAMA and invade Libya........but you don't care about that.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by musiqum
No, sheep is the one who believes internet fake photos, trumped-up youtube videos, internet rumours, guessworks of biased liars, false reports etc.
I disagree....

SHEEP only listen to MSM crap and wont even consider THEY MIGHT BE LYING TO THEM!!
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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For the deniers, forget the governments and agencies involved. Here's the deal: transmissions leave lots of foot prints. Ordinary tech geeks can trace this stuff in minutes, and they did. The Russian backed rebels were caught red handed (pardon the pun).
No, they didn't.
And needless to say that different tech geeks can make opposite to each other' conclusion. It depends from their bias. That's why we have an independent international committee of tech specialists. But there is no result from them so far.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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I disagree....
SHEEP only listen to MSM crap and wont even consider THEY MIGHT BE LYING TO THEM!!
Why? Both my definition and yours have the same idea.
I was saying same thing but in other words.
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