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Old 07-17-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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'Sully' Sullenberger 'Big Question' Is Why Plane Was Flying Over War Zone...

 
Old 07-17-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Oh just wait. We'll be hearing again from the it-only-takes-1950s-technology-to-do-this crowd now.
Well, the Russians certainly had the technology to hit a fast moving jet at 33,000 ft during the '60s in Vietnam as well as U-2s overflying their airspace high above 33,000 ft.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I haven't read all the posts.

Is it Obama's fault yet?
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Well, the Russians certainly had the technology to hit a fast moving jet at 33,000 ft during the '60s in Vietnam as well as U-2s overflying their airspace high above 33,000 ft.
good point.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He seems to answer his own question when he states in the article: “It’s up to each individual nation, each individual airline how much risk they are going to accept
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I haven't read all the posts.

Is it Obama's fault yet?
Nah, so far it's just his fault that he hasn't had Putin arrested and in custody yet.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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NBC is claiming the Ukrainian Defense Agency has said this airlcraft was shot down by a SAM.
Too bad it wasn't a chemtrailer plane.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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These are the types of incidents that lead to broader conflict.
More likely, it spells the end for the Russian Separatists in East Ukraine. They will be discredited and forced to go to ground.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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Well, the Russians certainly had the technology to hit a fast moving jet at 33,000 ft during the '60s in Vietnam as well as U-2s overflying their airspace high above 33,000 ft.
No question a former superpower has that technology today. But would Ukraine have it? Doubtful considering their financial situation since the breakup of the Soviet Union. Would pro-Russia Ukranian rebels have access to Russian technology?

At this very early juncture, all roads lead to Russia.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Guadian has a nice live feed of events/articles.

Here's their latest update which I find rather refreshingly objective.

Malaysia Airlines plane MH17 crashes in Ukraine - live updates | World news | theguardian.com
Summary
The day's developments so far:

• Malaysia Airlines MH17, carrying 295 people, crashed in east Ukraine near the village of Grabovo. Debris and bodies are scattered across several miles, and there are no presumed survivors.

• Separatist rebels and locals have begun tentative recovery efforts, bringing fire engines to put out blazes. Locals say the plane exploded in mid-air.

• Ukraine has traded accusations with rebels of shooting down the plane, with President Petro Poroshenko saying he believed a "terrorist act" was responsible. Both Kiev and a separatist leader denied any involvement.

• US and Russian presidents Obama and Putin spoke by phone, and the US has said it will work to determine what caused the crash and whether any Americans were on board. A spokesman for the Kremlin said the notion of any Russian hand was "stupidity".

• Delta, British Airways, France Air, Lufthansa, Aeroflot and other airlines said they would avoid Ukrainian air space.

• Ukraine accused Russia of downing one of its fighter jets inside Ukrainian territory earlier on Thursday.

A report summarizing the day's events so far has been filed by Shaun Walker in Kiev, Harriet Salem in Grabovo, Tania Branigan in Beijing, Alec Luhn in Moscow, and can be read in full here.
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