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It's Kiev that is "selling bridges". Their video of a so-called Russian BUK being transported back to Russia,
which was purported as evidence all weekend long in US and UK media, is being outed
as a bald-faced LIE. The truth is getting out. The Buk shown in their video was Ukrainian
in Ukraininan territory and taped in MAY.
"Moreover, the claim had been debunked long before the press conference took place. For example, on July 20 an authoritative blogger Anatoly Vorobey http://avva.livejournal.com/2787603.html analyzed the photo of the same Buk made on July 17, and proved beyond doubt (by way of comparison with other photos) that it was made in Torez, i.e. on the territory held by the “separatists”, and thus couldn’t have been on the Ukrainian-controlled territory the next day (when the video was made). Moreover, the claim that one can read the name of the street on the poster in the video is a direct lie, the text on the video is simply unreadable. But the same ad was found online, and the words are not “Dnepropetrovskaya 34”, but rather “natsionalnyj avtodiler” (“national autodealer”).
What i find is interesting is that they so want to a "US Conspiracy". of course there is a Russian Conspiracy (i.e. collaboration between separatists, Russian Government, and Russian owned media" to confuse/suppress/diffuse.
When faced with actual conspiracy in their face, they . . .would rather believe the conspirators (Russian and Russian backed separatists) than US Media and US Govt (which has never launched such a elaborate conspiracy plan as this.
Hell proof is in the pudding, we shot down the Iranian passenger jet and didn't run from it. . .
The saddest things is that some folks are so biased, prejudiced and distrust Russia that they won't believe that snow is white because it was reported by the "russian propaganda".
RT's first explanation was "the evil Ukrainians tried to kill Putin" until they realized that made no bloody sense whatsoever. Now they're in full "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode. Your average six-year-old has already learned that as a strategy for absolving oneself of blame, that one doesn't work. But Russia has never really been good at message management - and after the wall fell and they ran out of money to pay Western collaborators, their attempts grow downright embarrassing.
Russia and the ethnic Russians are 100% to blame for this. Despite Putin's comments the West is not responsible for the war there. Russia is responsible for the war. Russia has NEVER taken its hands off Ukraine since the Cold War ended. The current fighting is happening because Russia cannot accept the fact that months ago, the ethnic Ukrainian people stood up to the ethnic Russian minority and fought for freedom and democracy against the ethnic Russian dictator Yanukovich.
Russia hates skin contact with the West, don't they? One would think that a country with a bit of self-confidence would be fine with that, but Russia seems to have nothing but swagger. Massive inferiority complex.
Maybe. Tho IF the pro Russia rebels weren't scared; they'd GLADLY let people from the US, China, Europe and so on to the crash site immediately.
Why do you believe the rebels didn't let international monitors to the crash site? Because it was reported by Obama and his puppet Poroshenko who stared accusing the rebels 3 minutes after the plane crash? Prior any investigation? It is very odd. Isn't it?
President Poroshenko warned the international commission that he can't garantee their safety in the area because the rebels are very aggressive and won't stop fight.
But in fact, there are youtube videos (in russian) which are 2 days old where "the terrorists" say we are stopping all war actions in the area of 25 km and still waiting for the international commissioners, but where are they? Why they still don't come? WE ARE READY TO ACCEPT THEM HERE AND WE GARANTEE THEIR SAFETY!
So why Poroshenko lied and wasted time of the arrived international investigators?
There is very little doubt from everyone except conspiracy theorists and Russia supporters that rebels shot the plane down. NATO monitors the Russian border very closely. They know when a surface to air missile is fired and from where. They have communications about the attack. They have boasts from the sepratists. They have pictures of the buk. There is no whodunit here.
So, why NATO still don't publish all the data?
I give you the answer - because NATO understood who is really responsible for the plane crash and they are weren't the rebels.
"Moreover, the claim had been debunked long before the press conference took place. For example, on July 20 an authoritative blogger Anatoly Vorobey Ð—Ñ€Ñ Ð»Ð¸ Ñ Ñтолько Ñил разбазарил? - о Ñомнительном буке замолвите Ñлово analyzed the photo of the same Buk made on July 17, and proved beyond doubt (by way of comparison with other photos) that it was made in Torez, i.e. on the territory held by the “separatists”, and thus couldn’t have been on the Ukrainian-controlled territory the next day (when the video was made). Moreover, the claim that one can read the name of the street on the poster in the video is a direct lie, the text on the video is simply unreadable. But the same ad was found online, and the words are not “Dnepropetrovskaya 34”, but rather “natsionalnyj avtodiler” (“national autodealer”).
There are many interesting things online but the street was Dnepropetrovskaya #34 and the town was Krasnogvardeysk where ukrainian army deployed.
And it's really hard to believe that the rebels could allow any passerby to freely film the BUK.
That's fine.
I just express my opinion but I don' think that your position may have any value at all.
So I really don't care about your belief.
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