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Old 07-18-2014, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Well with China and India and maybe Pakistan come on the world stage it would not be a surprise..

Maybe we should final build a missile defense shield and not have the leftist keep this nation open to the horrors of Nuclear War.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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You have no reason to believe evidence is likely top show that except that you watch too much CNN. Europe & the US can't do jack about it anyway. What are they going to do launch a land war? We can't even beat Iraq or Afghanistan. Nuke 'em? Obviously not. More sanctions? How will Europe cook their food, heat their homes & run their cars without Russian gas?

The US backed (planned/executed?) a coup d' tat against the Democratically elected Government of the Ukraine. If not for our meddling, none of this transpires. We should have minded our own business. The ethnic Russians living in Ukraine want to be part of Russia. The US has decided they can't be, so they're fighting. Not sure how that's Putin's fault?

We're arming & training the Ukrainians, just as Russia is arming & training the ethnic Russians. We launched a proxy war against Russia.

Russia, China, Brazil & South Africa are launching a new World Bank that will compete directly with the IMF. Russia is back in Cuba & building nuclear plants in both Argentina & Brazil. While we've been spreading ourselves thin around the world like a kid trying to hold Asia in Risk, Russia's been amassing army's for 43 turns down in Australia & just turned in 2 sets of cards. This is happening.
Amazing how most Americans just consume the propaganda from the Obama-controlled MSM isn't it?

That is the first statement of facts of this situation I've seen on this forum.

O restarted the Cold War. It may yet turn into a hot war with a nuclear power.

O doesn't care how much havoc he wrecks, nor does he care if millions would be killed.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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He's still better than Bush was on his best day.

Tell us, what could he or should have done to prevent Russia from invading the Ukraine?
Not stopped the missile defense shield.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:03 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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I think we are all on edge. How many people have lost their lives to plane crashes this year? It is sort of like we are waiting for the next shoe to drop. Maybe time to read the last book in the Bible? Did they ever find the other plane that was missing?
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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Whatever your view has been about Obama, it is very clear the rest of the world is seeing him as ineffectual and they will do as they please. For good or bad, the President of the US has to show strength. Obama seems like he just cant wait to get out of office.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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He's still better than Bush was on his best day.

Tell us, what could he or should have done to prevent Russia from invading the Ukraine?
He could stare at Putin like this:



http://scottlaudati.com/wp-content/u...orge-bush2.jpg

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Well with China and India and maybe Pakistan come on the world stage it would not be a surprise..

Maybe we should final build a missile defense shield and not have the leftist keep this nation open to the horrors of Nuclear War.
Like the missile defense shield that continues to fail testing?
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Accidents happen. As judge Judy would say, "Accidents have consequences."
I think this puts the Kabash on East Ukraine Separatists. Putin will castrate their abilities. Putin's dream of having a land bridge to the Crimea has been put on hold. EU will do very little. US will do less. Everybody will walk away proclaiming what a horrible accident it all was, but Putin will walk away with a black eye.
Ultimately, they will find that a SA11 shot down a commercial airliner while targeting a Ukraine transport. Poorly trained.

No. the sky isn't falling. No WWIII on the Horizon, Just another International F*** UP.
Stock market is solid.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:22 PM
 
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Not stopped the missile defense shield.
Yep.

And Bush Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates agreed that Obama's plan was better.

The GOP claim that Obama scrapped a missile defense system as ‘a gift’ to Putin - The Washington Post
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think we are all on edge. How many people have lost their lives to plane crashes this year? It is sort of like we are waiting for the next shoe to drop. Maybe time to read the last book in the Bible? Did they ever find the other plane that was missing?
I don't think there are airplanes in The Bible. A talking snake and a dude living inside a whale for 3 days...yes. Airplanes...no.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:42 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Dont worry we have Obama...Wait..OH CRAP WE HAVE OBAMA! Said a leftist with a 1/4 brain..

This is what you get when you appease tyrants like Putin. Weakness invents War..
How can republicans criticize anyone in matters of war?

The GW Bush White House said 935 false statements about Iraq.
Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

Then Bush attacked Iraq in the name of Sept 11 (when Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11.) Bush killed 100,000+ innocent Iraqi people, and killed 1,000's of US soldiers for nothing. Plus republicans turned the previous non-terrorist threat Iraq, into a terrorist controlled hellhole.

I don't think republicans should be so quick calling "weakness" to start another war. I think republicans need to take a break before they talk war again.

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