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Old 08-10-2014, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually the oceans continue to heat up, and the rate of warming has increased since 1990.

Since 1993, global sea level has risen at an accelerating rate of around 3.5 mm/year. Much of the sea level rise to date is a result of increasing heat of the ocean causing it to expand. Global Climate Change Indicators | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)


World's Oceans Got a Lot Warmer In 2013 - weather.com
oh please the sea lvel is the same as it was 150 years ago

 
Old 08-10-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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What does your question have to do with my post?
What is the point of all this doom and gloom you constantly post? Most of which are absolute worst case scenarios.

Would you have the human population drastically culled because if this GW hysteria is real, that is the ONLY solution. There is no way anyone living in the real world believes that 7billion+ humans are going to change their ways enough to head off disaster.

You are talking about mass starvation to get this ponzie scheme of humanity to quit burning fossil fuels.

Before the advent of oil production there were 1 billion souls on the planet and that number was constant for thousands of years. Since oil production and the industrial revolution approx 120 years ago the population has spiked to over 7B and is still going up. Will be at around 15B by 2030 at these rates.

All burning fossil fuels and eating food created with fossil fuels.

There is NO substitute for fossil fuels and may never be. Nuclear fusion is a pipe dream. Wind power is a joke, if it ever supplies 10% of our needs that would be a huge success.

All other power pales in comparison to oil. One barrel provides the work output of 14 men for a year working 8 hours a day. To stop using it means a drastic population decline.

So is that what you want to happen?
 
Old 08-10-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What is the point of all this doom and gloom you constantly post? Most of which are absolute worst case scenarios.

Would you have the human population drastically culled because if this GW hysteria is real, that is the ONLY solution. There is no way anyone living in the real world believes that 7billion+ humans are going to change their ways enough to head off disaster.

You are talking about mass starvation to get this ponzie scheme of humanity to quit burning fossil fuels.

Before the advent of oil production there were 1 billion souls on the planet and that number was constant for thousands of years. Since oil production and the industrial revolution approx 120 years ago the population has spiked to over 7B and is still going up. Will be at around 15B by 2030 at these rates.

All burning fossil fuels and eating food created with fossil fuels.

There is NO substitute for fossil fuels and may never be. Nuclear fusion is a pipe dream. Wind power is a joke, if it ever supplies 10% of our needs that would be a huge success.

All other power pales in comparison to oil. One barrel provides the work output of 14 men for a year working 8 hours a day. To stop using it means a drastic population decline.

So is that what you want to happen?
So what happens when all of the fossil fuels are consumed?
 
Old 08-10-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Stop Telling Fabricated Untruths!

That's for global warming deniers, peak oil deniers, endangered species haters, logging apologists and that whole "God gave us nature to use up!" mindset. People are tired of your endless attempts to ignore scientific evidence for obvious economic and religious reasons. Maybe you're smart enough to see the alternate acronym.

I also propose that G.O.P. should stand for Greed Over Progress, Greedy Old Polluters, or similar terms. There's nothing Grand about willful ignorance and lack of respect for nature, though it is an Old tradition.

This site addresses "16 years of global cooling" or whatever lies are bouncing around the Dittohead echo chamber lately. CAUTION: some reading is required. You actually have to learn something to get past your existing rhetoric. I know unwelcome knowledge goes against "conservative values" but that's how the world has always recovered from ignorance.


“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” ― Benjamin Franklin
I believe completely in the principles of science. Given this, I cannot support the concept of "global warming" as this contention has not been proven by any means. In fact, the converse appears more probable.

Here is a better quote for you:

"It aint the things we don't know that get us into trouble. It is the things we know FOR SURE that just aint so"!
- Mark Twain
 
Old 08-10-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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So what happens when all of the fossil fuels are consumed?
What happens when all the jobs move to china because of your stupid excessive green regulations?
 
Old 08-10-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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So what happens when all of the fossil fuels are consumed?
Well, that's hundreds of years in the future and if GW is real, we would be screwed by then anyway.

I believe the only hope is solar energy and drastically improved solar panel technology. If that happens we may be able to support billions of people and not burn carbon fuel. Huge IF.

My advice to people who worry about global warming? Find something else to worry about. People are not going to change until it's in their interest to change. When solar energy is more convenient and cheaper than oil, this problem will start to go away.

But no one is going to change their ways except in token little ways to try to stop GW. Humans don't have it in them, they worry about themselves first and others last.
 
Old 08-10-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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So what happens when all of the fossil fuels are consumed?
Burn weed.

Henry Ford had a weed car; it was made of weed, and ran on weed.

Too bad the public corporations bested him.

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Old 08-10-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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There is an adage in medicine- "don't just do something, stand there."

Unless the premise of global warming is definitively proven (which it has not been), then taking "action" for an unproven theory is both reckless and foolish.

Only an imbecile would embrace a "cure" for a malady which has not been properly defined.
We get it...Just because the surface of the earth is heating up, as are the oceans, which are also rising, and land ice is melting all over the globe....You only believe in science that you like....
 
Old 08-10-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What happens when all the jobs move to china because of your stupid excessive green regulations?
My regulations? Seriously?

China is currently the top global investor in clean energy.... China passed the biggest changes to its environmental protection laws in 25 years, outlining plans to punish polluters more severely as leaders work to limit contaminated water, air and soil linked to economic growth.

The amended law “sets environmental protection as the country’s basic policy,” according to a copy posted on the government’s website.

China's Environmental Protection Law Lays Groundwork for Greater Transparency | In Asia
 
Old 08-10-2014, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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oh please the sea lvel is the same as it was 150 years ago
Yeah, right..



Is sea level rising?
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