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Any database of any importance whatsoever is archived annually, has a disaster recovery plan, and typically exists on at least two separate boxes in at least two separate data centers. This data was intentionally destroyed, not accidentally.
If a disaster befell the email servers at the IRS, we could reasonably expect other data loss issues there as well, but apparently, it was only that box and only where related to Lois Lerner's emails. Yeah, computers crash, but not selectively based on name.
Any database of any importance whatsoever is archived annually, has a disaster recovery plan, and typically exists on at least two separate boxes in at least two separate data centers. This data was intentionally destroyed, not accidentally.
If a disaster befell the email servers at the IRS, we could reasonably expect other data loss issues there as well, but apparently, it was only that box and only where related to Lois Lerner's emails. Yeah, computers crash, but not selectively based on name.
Hardware that runs important software and does data retention has built in redundancy.
There are 2 disks and an embedded controller. While data is being written to the disk the embedded controller transfers that data to the second disk.
In case of failure the embedded controller redirects all writes to the 2nd disk and sends alerts/warnings to the admins.
I've worked on stuff like this. Banks, big corps and yes, even the government have systems like this.
Could you imagine Bank of America saying "We don't know how much money people have in their accounts because our hard disk crashed"
And government, of all groups, have the longest retention periods for data which includes email.
Among those who lost data are Justin Low, a technical advisor and tax law specialist for the agency’s tax exempt division, which oversees decisions to grant tax exempt status.
Other employees who lost data were David Fish, an advisor to Lerner who also develops guidance for tax exempt groups and served as acting director of Rulings and Agreements and Andy Megosh, a manager in the IRS exempt organizations division.
Also, data was lost by an IRS agent in Cincinnati, where the IRS targeting originated. Revenue agent Kimberly Kitchens also donated to President Obama's re-election campaign.
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I'd take a close look at failure rates, and models, and find out if these are out of the ordinary or not.
The bottom line for me is this, did or did not Lerner's drive suffer severe physical damage to the platter. If the answer is no then something is not right. The correspondence between her and the IT people indicate personal files, they did not specifically mention email. The loss of all the email data on that drive would be extraordinary, the loss of all personal files is just out right unbelievable if there is no physical damage to the drive.
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Yes, computers crash, drives die, data becomes corrupted etc. What doesn't happen is complete loss of data from a platter unless there is severe physical damage. Had they said some of this data was lost that is believable.
Any database of any importance whatsoever is archived annually, has a disaster recovery plan, and typically exists on at least two separate boxes in at least two separate data centers. This data was intentionally destroyed, not accidentally.
The probelm here is the policy of the IRS was to have personnel move email from the server to their personal PC to conserve space. The backup tapes were being recycled after 6 months so anything moved to the PC would only exist on the PC after 6 months. This could have easily and cheaply been averted by having a policy in place of using incremental backups but they weren't doing that.
The odds of 7 hard drive crashes all at the same time to people being accused of targeting conservatives is 1 in 78,664,164,096.
They need to recalculate the odds now that we have email losses/hard drive crashes approaching 20 people that the investigation wants in connection to Lerner.
Don't forget the lost emails of the FEC Lois Lerner underling who targeted conservatives, broke the law and was forced to resign, but they can't get her on the bigger broken laws as the emails are all lost!!!
".......also said that the agency does not know if the lost emails are still backed up somewhere"
Reason enough to dismantle the IRS and criminally charge the top dogs. This is like Russian propaganda machine RT telling us Ukrainian rockets and America shot down the airliner.
Only a fool would believe that statement which also admits the IRS is irresponsible and violated their own rules. Being charged with irresponsibility and carelessness if preferred to criminal charges of institutionalized political subversion and prison sentences up to and including the whitehouse.
Obama and Putin have more in common thatn you might think! They lie and fully expect to be believed....and theoir propaganda machine backs them up.
Anyone recall how the team for senator obama announced they would bring a lawsuit against anyone telling lies about obama? When that hit the news, the claim went silent. then there was the turn in your friends to whitehouse.gov if you know anyone opposed to obamacare.
Obama's adminstration has not strayed far from its roots.
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