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Old 07-21-2014, 01:56 PM
 
Location: southern california
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romney was right about a lot of things. losing does not always mean you were wrong. i have often faced groups of hostile people that were wrong. obama promised change, he has delivered.
i see people at every corner saying "spare change".
and they are young and very aggressive!!!

 
Old 07-21-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Buckeye
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It was said in 2012, and I think he was correct in a sense....they are one of the five permanent members of the UN security council and usually vote against the US' international interests, but then so does China. I think a lot of people took it to mean that Russia was out #1 enemy, which is of course not true, but that was not the context.
Absolutely right. It was 2012. Thank you! He said "Russia is our number one geopolitical FOE". CNN referred to his comments as a "soviet era gaffe". Really? What say you now CNN?
 
Old 07-21-2014, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Absolutely right. It was 2012. Thank you! He said "Russia is our number one geopolitical FOE". CNN referred to his comments as a "soviet era gaffe". Really? What say you now CNN?
Russia is not "our number one geopolitical FOE".
 
Old 07-21-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Russia is a bugbear for many neoconservatives. Some of them have deep personal animus toward Russia stemming from family histories that reach back into "Bessarabia," modern-day Ukraine, and Russia itself.

But when you actually look at their complaints, they presume that the US should be "getting involved" in regions like eastern Ukraine to begin with. When you drop that presumption, their arguments mostly just fall apart.

Russia is adverse to "interests" such as NATO in Eastern Europe. Alright. That fails to ask the question of whether or not NATO should be IN Eastern Europe. Is that an "American" interest, or is it a plaything for certain elites?
 
Old 07-21-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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No matter how much the baby boomers yearn for a return of the red scare and no matter how much the far-right needs a boogeyman to fight against (USSR, terrorism, drugs, liberals, the French, etc...), Russia is not our enemy.

That doesn't play well with Joe Sixpack, but to thinking people it's spot on.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Governor Mitt Romney said "Russia is our number one geopolitical enemy". I recall candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton (along with other democrats including their supporters in the national news media) laughed it off. So, who had it right in 2008?
Please post the link of President Obama and Hilary laughing it off...
 
Old 07-21-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Russia-the Enemy

No they aren't.

Our "enemy" is fundamentalist Islamic terrorists.

Russia is at odds with us (and quite a few others) right now over the Ukraine situation, but that's not sufficient to make them an enemy.

Likewise, China is certainly not an enemy. The economic interdependence between the two of us ensures that we won't be more than rivals.

But by continuing this crazy role of acting as the world's policemen, we tend to manufacture enemies as we blunder around the globe.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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You should think of it more as "enemy of the month". We cycle through different countries we have problems with quite frequently. As horrible as the plane crash is, the White House is using it as a very effective tool to dramatically turn world opinion negative toward Russia. That's one good thing to come out of a tragic situation.

At the time Romney made that comment I don't think Russia was our enemy and nor do I now. The separatists/Russians didn't fire upon an American military aircraft or jetliner. This is mostly a problem with the countries whose nationalities were represented on that aircraft.
Plane did not crash it was blown up
 
Old 07-21-2014, 04:43 PM
 
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I hope all the cheering warmongers are ready to volunteer for the front lines against Russia and China.

This ain't a football game.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 11:26 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Absolutely right. It was 2012. Thank you! He said "Russia is our number one geopolitical FOE". CNN referred to his comments as a "soviet era gaffe". Really? What say you now CNN?
Well... CNN did give us Candy Crowley.
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