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the israeli attitude to the areas they occupy is as follows
the situation in the west bank and gazza is very difficult but it needs to be in order to ensure the security of israel , effectively , israel ( and its american backers - the overwhelming majority of americans ) support the collective punishment of pallestinians so israel can carry on in its current form
Yes, Israel is to blame for many things. They keep on expanding settlements against International Law, have a right wing (Bush like) government that favors collective punishment, ignoring Jewish terrorism and extremism in the country, and favoring war mongering over peace talks. Per the collective punishment accusation, they also unfairly penalize the quality of life of the average person in Gaza for their terrorist ruling but elected government.
There, I said it. The government of Israel sucks at the moment and so does the War. I'm very left wing. But I'm not a hypocrite, and I fully support Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian state.
Israel is a country just like all others and has a right to exist free from daily rocket attacks on it's citizens. If innocent Palestinians shouldn't suffer from the policies of their government, why should Israelis? Why can't a Jewish state exist within a mutually agreed border alongside a Palestinian state? Why do people who accuse Israel of collective punishment also delegitimize the country's existence, contrary to their view of other countries?
they also have an entire industry which uses the hollocaust as cover for their murderous policies within the pallestinian terrotorys
a ( low level ) british politican said in the past week
" my grandmother didnt die in belsen so as to provide political cover for benjamin netenyahu "
a ( low level ) british politican said in the past week
" my grandmother didnt die in belsen so as to provide political cover for benjamin netenyahu "
Source??
Possible actual quote from 2009: "My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed. My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza"
Possible actual quote from 2009: "My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed. My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza"
israel is a nazi like state , even outside times of outright war like today , it subjugates its pallestinian muslim neighbours and views them as inferior - unworthy of humane treatment , its completely restricts their lives , micro manages how they go about their business and decides whether they live or die each day when it comes to routine things like a woman going into labour ( denying access to hospital routes etc )
hitler would be proud of today,s israel
goebells would be proud of its propoganda machine which spans the world and has completely and utterly infiltrated journalism in the usa
The Palestinians in Gaza deserve to free to live in control of their own lives. But, if they continue to rely on Hamas to attain that right, they are not likely to get it.
The Palestinians in Gaza deserve to free to live in control of their own lives. But, if they continue to rely on Hamas to attain that right, they are not likely to get it.
israel controls 40% of gazza , they control all entry and exits from it , they control the water into it , they regulary turn the water off during times of extreme heat so as to make life more difficult for the civilians who live there , israel were doing things like this long before hamass were founded , they want all that land and their goal is to slowly kill off the pallestinians or at least drive them out
israel do not want a two state solution , they never negotiated in good faith with fatah who are not extremists in the way hammas are , netenjahu ( years ago ) was caught on record , saying he never intended to consider a two state solution and only went along to humour various actors during a particular round of phoney negotiations - peace talks , the pallestinians have nothing to loose by attacking israel , they are going to die anyway and life is a hell in the occupied territories , anytime talks are going somewhere , israel resumes buildiing more settlments while knowing full well it will spur reprisals from hammass , they want hammas to attack , they then go in and kill a thousand people or so and gain more political traction in the usa , thus giving them cover to engage in more illegal building of settlements
they are an extremely well oiled machine and play the american political class like a violin
Serious question to those that seem to unconditionally back Israel's actions over the past few weeks: Is Israel at all to blame for the current situation? Or is this entirely the fault of the Palestinians?
Realize that Israel has been under attact since the Partition Act of 1947. When the British Army pulled out of Egypt and Israel the Muslims countries has been trying to destroy the Israel. The IDF is been going after the source and taking them out. Something we should, the United States, do more of right now.
israel controls 40% of gazza , they control all entry and exits from it , they control the water into it , they regulary turn the water off during times of extreme heat so as to make life more difficult for the civilians who live there , israel were doing things like this long before hamass were founded , they want all that land and their goal is to slowly kill off the pallestinians or at least drive them out
israel do not want a two state solution , they never negotiated in good faith with fatah who are not extremists in the way hammas are , netenjahu ( years ago ) was caught on record , saying he never intended to consider a two state solution and only went along to humour various actors during a particular round of phoney negotiations - peace talks , the pallestinians have nothing to loose by attacking israel , they are going to die anyway and life is a hell in the occupied territories , anytime talks are going somewhere , israel resumes buildiing more settlments while knowing full well it will spur reprisals from hammass , they want hammas to attack , they then go in and kill a thousand people or so and gain more political traction in the usa , thus giving them cover to engage in more illegal building of settlements
they are an extremely well oiled machine and play the american political class like a violin
You forget that is still Israeli territory that was won in the 1967 war. How could anyget a deal done with the other side trying to launch a rocket/
Israel has been more than fair and its time to take out the rats. Then we could see this 2 state deal come on the table.
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