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Old 07-24-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Like I said, I'll sleep very well tonight without a single ounce of sympathy for this guy. He got what he deserved. How long the process took is irrelevant.
It is not about sympathy, it is about what the Constitution says.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Killing murderers.
I don't find it torture.
It is torture, you just don't care that it is torture.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It is torture, you just don't care that it is torture.
It is not torture.

Torture is inflicting pain for the sake of inflicting pain. The process is specifically designed to remove pain from the process.

If you believe the death penalty is torture than putting someone in prison is torture.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: California
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I have no sympathy for murderers, I have sympathy for the victim and their family.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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Killing murderers.
I don't find it torture.
Explaining why you support something is irrelevant. I am showing the hypocrisy and the huge contradiction of so many small government I'm afraid of the government stealing my freedom types.


Again if a person were terrified of government power because government is incompetent or corrupt, then logically that person would be terrified of the government deciding who lives or dies because they believe that the government is incompetent and corrupt and would probably based on incompetence alone kill innocent people or that the criminal justice process could be manipulated by corrupt government officials to convict and then kill innocent people.


And those people would certainly be terrified of reports of that same government that they are afraid of stealing their freedom because they are convinced it is incompetent and corrupt proving their incompetence by not being able to kill a person for nearly 2 hours and showing the corruption of hiding the drugs that are being used to kill that person and where they got the drugs.

But of course the people who claim to be terrified of government power are perfectly fine with the state deciding to kill people and they are perfectly ok with the state taking two hours to kill that person while the state hides the drugs that they used and where they got those drugs to kill that person.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:38 AM
 
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Remember when these I'm so afraid of the government stealing our freedom types run around spouting their nonsense of freedom over tax policy, ask them where they stand on the death penalty. Get a good look at hypocrisy.

The same people who say the ACA health law steals freedom because government is incompetent and corrupt are cheer leaders of that same government killing people.


I'm mean the state taking your life is the ultimate in stealing freedom, but these people who run around saying oh I'm so afraid of the government stealing my freedom over tax policy or business regulations are perfectly ok with the government deciding to take someone's life.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think these complicate procedures were instituted to make implementing execution as costly and difficult as possible. I believe that some criminals and extremely dangerous insane people should be executed after a proper trial before an unbiased jury. I do object to these almost secret ceremonies held in closed rooms beyond public scrutiny.

I think the criminals should have the choice of a firing squad, beheading or hanging in a public execution. These choices are simple, effective and, in the case of the last two, the ax and the rope can be reused. Having the execution public might be repugnant enough that the death penalty might just be eliminated. I believe the public, as they are the people that authorized the penalty and the method, should witness what the results of their decision actually are.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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I think these complicate procedures were instituted to make implementing execution as costly and difficult as possible. I believe that some criminals and extremely dangerous insane people should be executed after a proper trial before an unbiased jury. I do object to these almost secret ceremonies held in closed rooms beyond public scrutiny.

I think the criminals should have the choice of a firing squad, beheading or hanging in a public execution. These choices are simple, effective and, in the case of the last two, the ax and the rope can be reused. Having the execution public might be repugnant enough that the death penalty might just be eliminated. I believe the public, as they are the people that authorized the penalty and the method, should witness what the results of their decision actually are.
Meh, you have to sharpen the axe which wears it down and no you should not reuse the rope, hard to tell if interior stress tears will cause it to fail next time.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: USA
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Instead of all these wild drug cocktails, how about just putting them in a van with no wheels, run a hose from the tailpipe to the inside, then start the engine & let it run. After a while they will just fall asleep & never wake up again.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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If the US use certain anesthetic drugs in Capital Punishment, then a lot of such drugs will no longer be supplied to the US including US Hospitals, it's as simple as that and has already happened in relation to thiopental, however the potential loss of propofol may impact to a far greater extent in relation to US Health Services and Surgery. There is also a host of other important drugs which could be potentially withdrawn from export to the US.
They use same drugs to put animals down in Europe.

Why are animal rights activists protesting or shaming these same companies.
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