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Old 07-25-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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I've posted a direct quote: ISIS enforces female circumcision | BAS NEWS

If you disbelieve the Mosul police spokesman, take that up with him.
Why would I believe this guy? He's not a spokesperson for ISIS. It's logical to ask for a copy of the fatwa. And if the fatwa is not produced, it's logical to disbelieve this random guy.

Where is the fatwa?
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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They're too busy protesting the Hobby Lobby decision then to care about what's being done to women elsewhere. They don't really give a crap.
Yeah. As long as they get their free contraceptives and can murder their own unborn, they could care less.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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And here it is again, that crazy rightwing meme that everything was going swimmingly in Iraq until Obama took office. The only "progress" in Iraq was that we were getting out of it.

I'll grant you that there definitely was "gross incompetence and ineptitude," and that was going into Iraq with the infantile idea that we could conquer the country in six weeks, be greeted as liberators, and install western style democracy, but those were wholly on the part of the previous administration.

Anything and everything else is rightwing, rewriting history Fantasyland.
Your inept attempt to rewrite both the past and the present is noted.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Why would I believe this guy?
He's the spokesman for the Mosul police. I'd believe the named Mosul police spokesman over unnamed "supporters of the Islamic State" "dismissing the story as propaganda" or reporters claiming it's "likely false."
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Yesterday, supporters of ISIS said the claims were “propaganda†and that the information originated in a falsified document, the Guardian reports. Some Kurdish officials and residents of Mosul have said it was true but reporters with knowledge of the area, including NPR’s Leila Fadel, tweeted that the story was likely false."
http://www.newsweek.com/isis-deny-un...s-women-261323

As it stands...

A named Mosul police spokesman says it's true.
Unnamed supporters of ISIS claim it's propaganda.
Reporters who speak for neither of the above groups say it's likely false.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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He's the spokesman for the Mosul police. I'd believe the named Mosul police spokesman over unnamed "supporters of the Islamic State" "dismissing the story as propaganda" or reporters claiming it's "likely false."
http://www.newsweek.com/isis-deny-un...s-women-261323

As it stands...

A named Mosul police spokesman says it's true.
Unnamed supporters of ISIS claim it's propaganda.
Reporters who speak for neither of the above groups say it's likely false.
And he's not a spokesman for ISIS.

Don't you want confirmation?
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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And he's not a spokesman for ISIS.
Where IS the spokesman from ISIS. They haven't issued a denial.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This thread got me to thinking, why isn't circumscision considered male genital mutilation, and why is there no outcry over that?
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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This thread got me to thinking, why isn't circumscision considered male genital mutilation, and why is there no outcry over that?
It's not as extreme. Male circumcision is merely the removal of the foreskin. To be comparable to FGM, the entire penis would have to be cut off.

More here:
WHO | Female genital mutilation
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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Where IS the spokesman from ISIS. They haven't issued a denial.
A denial of what? A non-existent fatwa?
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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A denial of what?
A denial of what the named spokesman for the Mosul police has stated as fact.
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