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Old 08-01-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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Report: New House bill on border crisis will limit Obama’s power to expand executive amnesty to new illegals « Hot Air

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Report: New House bill on border crisis will limit Obama’s power to expand executive amnesty to new illegals

posted at 10:41 am on August 1, 2014 by Allahpundit


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Still waiting for fuller details but Chad Pergram sees some sort of victory for tea partiers in the making. Initially, Boehner wanted to keep his own border bill separate from Ted Cruz’s and Marsha Blackburn’s bill limiting DACA, Obama’s 2012 amnesty for DREAMers. Only if House Republicans passed Boehner’s bill, the leadership insisted, would they get a vote on Cruz/Blackburn. But that was no real incentive: Either the House itself would have killed the Cruz/Blackburn bill or the Senate surely would have killed it. The only way to make DACA part of the ongoing negotiations in Congress was to add it to Boehner’s own bill, as part of the House’s formal offer to Harry Reid. I.e. “one bill, one vote.”
Mission accomplished?
On the other hand:
Chad Pergram’s the only reporter with details on the bill that I’ve noticed but that’s newsy enough that it’s worth flagging now. I’ll update as more details are known. As for the timetable, Pergram says they’re going to at least pay lip service to formal procedure in passing this thing even though they’ll end up ignoring Boehner’s “three-day rule” for posting the text of a bill before it’s voted on. First comes a vote authorizing the House to take up a “same day rule,” then comes the posting of the bill’s text, then comes a meeting of the House Rules Committee followed by a vote of the House on the new rule, and then finally a vote on the bill itself sometime in the late afternoon or early evening. If all goes well, the GOP will have a new message for the August recess — they’ve now formally warned the president that he should go no further than he’s already gone in granting executive amnesty. If he goes ahead and issues a mega-amnesty for adult illegals in September anyway, it’ll look more like outright defiance of the will of one branch of Congress than Congress “refusing to act” or whatever. That might help, however marginally, in the messaging war that follows.
Here’s your thread, just in case you’re following along on C-SPAN today. Updates to follow. One other point in closing in case it’s ambiguous: Cruz/Blackburn wouldn’t *repeal* DACA, it would simply close it off to new applicants. That’s a concession to the politics here. The GOP’s willing, however grudgingly, to take on Obama’s executive action, but it fears the “anti-Latino” brand enough that it won’t expel kids who are currently in the program.

I may be willing to get behind this. Depends on what more we learn about it. Closing off DACA is to new applicants is a good thing so far. Limiting Obama's amnesty push is great as well.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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What is preventing Obama from declaring them all refugees and grant them asylum ?
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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What is preventing Obama from declaring them all refugees and grant them asylum ?
Nothing. And this bill won't help either. He's made it pretty clear that he is going to bypass Congress and any applicable laws to do whatever he wants by executive order.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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What is preventing Obama from declaring them all refugees and grant them asylum ?
Wouldnt the preventing of new applicants stop that? And if he tries to go around it, it would be a blatant regard for the law and I believe it would back fire hard on Dems if he does that. That would tick off the country like nothing else.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:10 AM
 
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You do realize that this is just a bone being tossed to the right? It has no chance of ever becoming law. The House has had months to deal with the bipartisan Senate immigration bill and has done nothing. We need serious immigration reform, not last minute political theater.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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There are enough laws on the books to cover all of these issues. They are not being followed. As for the bipartisan senate immigration bill....the last time the GOP & Reagan passed such a bill in 1986 the enforcement protocols were never enforced. Same thing will happen again. Both the GOP & the dems want open borders.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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You do realize that this is just a bone being tossed to the right? It has no chance of ever becoming law. The House has had months to deal with the bipartisan Senate immigration bill and has done nothing. We need serious immigration reform, not last minute political theater.
Correct! More Pandering to the right-wing base and has Zero chance of even making through to the President. The right does not think the voters are smart enough to realize that they are simply playing political games and anything short of a full blown immigration reform Bill will be nothing more than kicking the can down the road. The only people that buy this nonsense are the diehard sheeple that believe whatever is fed to them.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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I just wanted a crisis bill for now, the border agents need some help. Why they always insist on getting bogged down with adding stuff is beyond me.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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There are enough laws on the books to cover all of these issues. They are not being followed. As for the bipartisan senate immigration bill....the last time the GOP & Reagan passed such a bill in 1986 the enforcement protocols were never enforced. Same thing will happen again. Both the GOP & the dems want open borders.
I think that's the answer, neither want it because there is too much money being made. We are being played. Normally I'd watch CSPAN, but just arrived in the Rockies. To hell with them, I'm going hiking.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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Blame the right? Why? Because Dems dont want the border secured, want to continue DACA, and grant amnesty. That's not solving any problems. But of course, the Left doesn't want the problems solved. They want new voters.
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