Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-22-2014, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
10,834 posts, read 14,936,147 times
Reputation: 16587

Advertisements

Sounds to me like the Chinese government knows the religion of pig dirt, woman beaters and baby killers when they smell it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-22-2014, 05:02 AM
 
Location: North America
19,784 posts, read 15,111,393 times
Reputation: 8527
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJJersey View Post
Yes, I am serious. Even if we assume that islam is a "religion" and not a theopolitical cult with aspirations of global domination and rule, then that still does not mean we need to bow to its nonsense as evidenced by the Supreme Court's refusal to allow the smoking of peyote and certain other religious practices that are harmful or otherwise prohibited by public policy. Plus, our second amendment says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed yet just until very recently it was completely illegal in certain parts of the country to even own a gun and still illegal to carry a gun in many states; and even if you are theoretically allowed to obtain or carry a gun then you need to jump through numerous hoops and, even then, you may be severely restricted in the type of gun or ammunition you can purchase. Does that sound like "shall not be infringed" to you? Or how about this one: you have the right to be secure in your property without search or seizure absent a warrant except of course if you are in your car in which case the police can do whatever they want, or they can fly over you and take a picture, or the NSA can tap your phone, or read your email, or they can do a "sneak and peak" search of your home, or they can look around your house for "confederates" if they catch a person near your home. Oh yeah, and they can search your house without a warrant even if you say no as long as another person who purportedly lives there says yes. They can also search your house on a "community caretaking" measure if they think there is someone in the home who needs help, or under exigent circumstances (AKA miscellaneous made-up reason). But don't worry because at least your house itself is safe from the government taking it unless of course it takes it for public use and by "public use" I mean when a business comes in and wants to build a private mall on your property and tells the local town to throw you off your land and bulldoze your house for "public use".

So... there is absolutely no reason why the constitution should have an absolute rule against prohibiting or restricting a violent ideology masquerading as a "religion," especially one that openly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, and practices apostasy which is in and of its self antithetical to freedom of religion and the First Amendment. But you can go ahead and continue to make nice with a rabid dog under the chimerical delusion that it will bite you last.

A couple of things:

1. China is a communist country, and eschews all religion.
2. Since when is fasting for for Ramadan a violent act by a cult?
3. You go into a anti gubmit blather that has nada to do with the subject (as lame as it is) at hand

Move to china, please. I'll pay for a one way ticket for you.

Last edited by carterstamp; 08-22-2014 at 06:15 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
12,350 posts, read 9,720,028 times
Reputation: 13892
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
They do not have a constitution giving them the freedom of religion.

Just another example of the greatness of our constitution and the founding fathers!
Yeah, considering all of the good that religion is doing in our world.

Some great points can be found in The Constitution. Protecting religion beyond the right of individual free thought isn't one of them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
16,911 posts, read 10,591,580 times
Reputation: 16439
Quote:
Originally Posted by carterstamp View Post
A couple of things:

1. China is a communist country, and eschews all religion.
2. Since when is fasting for for Ramadan a violent act by a cult?
3. You go into a anti gubmit blather that has nada to do with the subject (as lame as it is) at hand

Move to china, please. I'll pay for a one way ticket for you.
1) How is a country's economic distribution system relevant to its perceived treatment of religious diversity?

2) It doesn't need to be, that was just an example.

3) If you think the subject is so lame then why bother posting on it? My "anti gubmit blather" shows the logical inconsistencies of people who allow various exceptions to every other constitutional right yet refuse to allow badly needed restrictions on dangerous cultist practices. I find it ironic that you are call my post "anti gubmit blather" yet you decry "gubmit" restrictions on dangerous ideological practices.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 09:17 PM
 
9,229 posts, read 9,758,341 times
Reputation: 3316
Islam is nothing new in China. In fact it has been there for 1,400 years. 10 ethnic groups in China are predominantly Muslims, and they make 2% (over 25 million) of China's population.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 09:44 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,856,573 times
Reputation: 18304
Quote:
Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
Freedom of Religion in our Constitution only applies to those who believe in the Christian God.
Many religions are protected in US. That includes Jews the most persecuted religion thru history,
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 09:49 PM
 
Location: southern california
61,288 posts, read 87,420,711 times
Reputation: 55562
not all that china does is bad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 10:37 PM
 
56,988 posts, read 35,198,461 times
Reputation: 18824
That's a real shortsighted and stupid thing for the Chinese to be doing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2014, 10:45 PM
 
Location: california
7,321 posts, read 6,926,415 times
Reputation: 9258
IF you bother to listen to the whole report, the Islamic have driven cars in crowd and killed people with bombs.
So much for the religion of peace.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2014, 12:47 PM
 
6,084 posts, read 6,044,731 times
Reputation: 1916
The falun gong cats don't have it easy there either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:08 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top