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Old 07-28-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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what a paranoid thread. does ebola turn Nigerians into Mexicans and south americans? what an unusual disease.
Nope. But it does turn live people into dead ones.

 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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You responded to my post about all the diseases that could be transmitted by illegal immigrants and that's what I was responding too. Not just Ebola - get with the program and quit taking things out of context.

And personally - we were never trained to do research projects - I am not a researcher but was trained in another medical profession. Doesn't mean that I haven't been involved in research projects - several posted on the web - but just because you're a trained medical professional does not mean you do research projects.
But being so very smart, so very, very smart...you shouldn't have a problem.

And no, I wasn't responding to you necessarily.

I'm just trying to cool a bit of the hysteria. All these scenarios are fantasies right out of a bad S/F channel movie. Ebola is nothing new and there's nothing to indicate that it has become any more deadly...rather the contrary. As for this idea that 'illegals' are bringing in all sorts of diseases, that's the same thing they said about every other group that has come here -- including, quite probably, *your* ancestors.

Freaking out isn't an adequate response to anything.
 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Nope. But it does turn live people into dead ones.
yes, in Africa. also, Nigeria is the most populated country in Africa (168.8 million), only a little over 1000 people have contracted the disease and less than 50% of those have died. that sounds awful, but not pandemic.
 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Ebola can never gain a foothold on the US.
 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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yes, in Africa. also, Nigeria is the most populated country in Africa (168.8 million), only a little over 1000 people have contracted the disease and less than 50% of those have died. that sounds awful, but not pandemic.

every pandemic starts somewhere, if it mutates to an air born virus it will spread quicker..
 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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Ebola can never gain a foothold on the US.
We have Navy Seals protecting our coasts and Border Patrol our dirt borders.
 
Old 07-28-2014, 01:03 PM
 
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every pandemic starts somewhere, if it mutates to an air born virus it will spread quicker..
"Mutates".

That's a riot.

Try, "is mutated".

http://www.amazon.com/Lab-257-Distur.../dp/006078184X

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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yes, in Africa. also, Nigeria is the most populated country in Africa (168.8 million), only a little over 1000 people have contracted the disease and less than 50% of those have died. that sounds awful, but not pandemic.
The only person with a confirmed case in Nigeria is a guy how just got a plane.
 
Old 07-28-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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Ebola can never gain a foothold on the US.
This is a silly argument.
It may or it may not. It's only a matter of chance and bad timing and circumstances. As long as they allow people to freely travel back and forth from there, there is a significant risk. Yes, it's not airborne yet and yes, they may be more effective at containing it in the US than Africa. However, as I said, it's all a matter of chance - if the first case travels here, how it travels, how many other people are exposed, how quickly it's recognized and containment efforts implemented, etc etc. They may nip it in the bud, or it might spread to millions - depending on lots of factors. I'm sure the doctors who contracted it knew and followed all the precautionary protocols yet they still got it - that doesn't sound like it's THAT difficult to contract.

And not airborne does not equal not easily contagious. Consider norovirus (aka stomach flu) - it's transmissible by oral-fecal route only. You would think, how easy is it not to catch it - just wash your hands before your eat and don't inhale vomit or fecal particles. And yet, outbreaks are so common and rampant everywhere! I managed to catch it this winter even though I'm absolutely paranoid of anything stomach-related (guess why I'm so passionate about this topic, hah). and never eat without washing hands first, wasn't around anyone sick. I couldn't trace it back to anything I've done, except drink from a water glass at a take-out sushi place, I guess that must've been it. So think about it, if we can't prevent the spread of such a simple virus with reasonable precautions, why do people think it'll be simple to stop this??

Why are we waiting till that point hits anyway?? Why not do something to PREVENT it right now and stop travel to affected areas before anything happens? An ounce of prevention and all that, why aren't people grasping that??
Just makes me want to bash my head against the wall...
 
Old 07-28-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Why are we waiting till that point hits anyway?? Why not do something to PREVENT it right now and stop travel to affected areas before anything happens? An ounce of prevention and all that, why aren't people grasping that??
Just makes me want to bash my head against the wall...
But that's not 'an ounce of prevention'...that's a hundred megatons of prevention. It's using a thermo-nuclear device to smash an ant.

6,000,000 people in Sierra Leone...225 dead. Let's all panic!

We lose more people to tornadoes-- a random event about which you can do nothing except hunker down when the warning goes -- but are you telling the world not to travel to Iowa, Nebraska, or Oklahoma? Why don't y'all save your apocalyptic freak-outs for when Ebola actually travels to somewhere in this hemisphere?
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