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I have yet to have an atheist or agnostic ring my doorbell to promote or push their views. I have had an occasional Mormon or Jehovah's Witness do so, but have been fortunate the last few years. I have also had flyers from a few churches in the area left at my door. Prefer that over someone assuming I can just drop everything at a moment's notice to be converted to their viewpoint at my home. Does not get much more pushy or "in your face" than that.
I am a Christian and just have not experienced what you are describing. Various members of these denominations have been far pushier. Atheists and agnostics have not tried to convert me. They are entitled to the same rights as everyone else. We are supposed to be the USA, not Iran.
One day when I was out of town the Johova's Wittness people opened my screen door to insert a tract into my front door panel. They didn't close my screen door securely, and a gust of wind blew the screen door off of the hinges. Next time, three older men JW who stopped by, I told them about the previous incident, and asked them if they came by to pay for new screen door. They took off down my driveway as fast as they could, without even saying, "we are sorry." That was their last visit to my house.
I think it's great to have the Church of Satan putting up their garbage next to religious displays of peace such as the manger scenes, or having a booth next to religious booths.
Anyone with a little common sense will see what is what when comparing. There's really no competition.
It seems you're conflating this Church of Satan with atheists.
"The city has certain values that I don't believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station," Fouts said. "I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here."
Yep, in that city it apparently is for Christians only. There is no better place to have a booth for those in a city like this who are atheists and feel a lack of acceptance based on the fact that they don't have a religious backed value.
With a booth, Atheists can assure others like them that the city will still treat them fairly and that others like them are accepted within city hall just like those who are Christian. But, obviously that isn't true in this city, they won't be treated fairly and there will be no booth if you aren't Christian. Because in the eyes of a Christian when you don't believe in God you are disparaging of them. lol
How bad is this city hall to need booths to console people through prayer? It must be pretty scary in there, last time I checked you could pray anywhere.....
Somethings a bit fishy about the city hall decision.
I think atheists are acting a bit religiouslike sometimes, maybe out of the normal realm of atheism to make the point, but I believe the real point to their madness is to make sure that the people who are atheists and afraid to be honest about it because of fear given the attitude Americans have of them is valid.
It's not like an atheist is treated the same in America as they are in say England or Japan. It can have negative effects here on your job or with relatives, where as it's a none issue in a lot of other progressive countries. Atheists are trying to get people in America use to living with them so that it becomes a none issue in the future. America isn't the middle east but it is a very religious country, and God Bless America is the standard lingo. It's a bit dominated by it if we're honest.
Not seeing any proof "The Nazis were an avowed Christian organization from their conception" in those pictures.
All I see is a politician doing photo ops. They all seem to do that:
(thats a Bible in ole Willies hand if you can't see it)
My problem with the OP's assertion is that curiously for an "avowed Christian organization" there is no mention of Christianity in either the NSDAP's 25 Points or their handbook Ich Kämpfe....so again, where is the source for the claim "The Nazis were an avowed Christian organization from their conception".
Throw in Hitlers poorly hidden animosity towards Christianity and it becomes incredulous.
He also needs to educate himself before he makes idiotic statements. The Nazis were an avowed Christian organization from their conception, and the kkk used to be called the "Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan". I'll bet he approves their application next year.
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Originally Posted by Kreutz
First I've heard of that, got a source?
Only the Nazis themselves.
"We demand freedom for all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or conflict with the customs and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession...."
- Article 20 of the program of the German Workers' Party (later named the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP)
Not seeing any proof "The Nazis were an avowed Christian organization from their conception" in those pictures.
All I see is a politician doing photo ops. They all seem to do that:
(thats a Bible in ole Willies hand if you can't see it)
My problem with the OP's assertion is that curiously for an "avowed Christian organization" there is no mention of Christianity in either the NSDAP's 25 Points or their handbook Ich Kämpfe....so again, where is the source for the claim "The Nazis were an avowed Christian organization from their conception".
Throw in Hitlers poorly hidden animosity towards Christianity and it becomes incredulous.
Actually, this is a good account of it by this history professor. Hitler used Christians and exploited them for backing in the take over but seems intended to then get rid of them and institute a "North Korean" type German religion for all of Germany later on. Hitler was a crazy individual and I don't think Christians nor atheists need to be lumped comparatively. IMO, of course.
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Rejected Atheist Booth in City Hall Draws Lawsuit
