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Old 07-27-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Just curious but does anyone know what would be the purpose of the atheist booth would be?
It's just some place to sit and laugh at the superstitious bozos in the booths to the left and right of you.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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But we don't force our beliefs on anyone.
Well, when Christians insist that their beliefs should receive favorable treatment from government (as is the case here), or insist on having 10 Commandments plastered over public buildings, or when they insist on fighting the teaching of evolution in schools... Yeah, seems a bit intrusive.

Anyway, Mayor Fouts should have consulted with his city's attorney - or with a first-year law student, for that matter. This is a lawsuit that the city will lose, if it comes to that, and it will be his constituents' money down the drain.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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Just curious but does anyone know what would be the purpose of the atheist booth would be?
Same purpose as a church booth.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:14 AM
 
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"What influence, in fact, have religious establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." – James Madison
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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"The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." – Declaration of the U.S. Congress in 1797
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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"Across the ages, clergy have been interested not in truth but only in wealth and power; when rational people have had difficulty swallowing their impious heresies, then the clergy have, with the help of the state, forced them down their throats." – Thomas Jefferson
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, when Christians insist that their beliefs should receive favorable treatment from government (as is the case here), or insist on having 10 Commandments plastered over public buildings, or when they insist on fighting the teaching of evolution in schools... Yeah, seems a bit intrusive.

Anyway, Mayor Fouts should have consulted with his city's attorney - or with a first-year law student, for that matter. This is a lawsuit that the city will lose, if it comes to that, and it will be his constituents' money down the drain.


There is a right to religious freedom and the roll of government is to neither endorse or show preference to any specific religion, but Atheists tell me they do not practice a religion and that their beliefs are non-religious, so what right do they assert here?
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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"What influence, in fact, have religious establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." – James Madison
The emboldened text is ABSOLUTELY the case. Religion has NEVER been the guardian of liberty.

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Old 07-27-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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Well, when Christians insist that their beliefs should receive favorable treatment from government (as is the case here), or insist on having 10 Commandments plastered over public buildings, or when they insist on fighting the teaching of evolution in schools... Yeah, seems a bit intrusive.

Anyway, Mayor Fouts should have consulted with his city's attorney - or with a first-year law student, for that matter. This is a lawsuit that the city will lose, if it comes to that, and it will be his constituents' money down the drain.




"The city cannot allow speech supportive of religion and reject speech supportive of atheism."




Wrong!

The Constitution protects religion, not the lack thereof.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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“Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting ‘Jesus Christ,’ so that it would read ‘A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion,;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and [Muslim], the Hindu and Infidel of every denomination.” -Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
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