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View Poll Results: Israel should keep fighting in Gaza until Hamas surrenders
YES! That is the only way to win a war 128 64.00%
NO, too many innocents will die if they fight to win 62 31.00%
Don't know 10 5.00%
Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-30-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Everyone who disagrees with Israel's barbarism hates jews? Good grief.
See that word right there is called hyperbole and when you feel the need to resort to that you are indeed making a case for the accusation of being at least anti-Jewish.

War is barbaric but at least follows some rules of engagement such as warning people ahead of time their area is to be bombed. Terrorism is barbaric but follows no conventional rules whatsoever with these cretins using children as shields and even cannon fodder so accusing one side only of barbarism seems disingenuous.

Pick your side.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If Canada were lobbing rockets into New Hampshire would you worry about their women and children more than your own?
This is way over the top, we would not just place artillery and air strikes into civilian areas, we would send infantry. Over 1300 people killed mostly civilians is far too many. How many Israeli civilians were killed? How many Soldiers 100? Bombarding Gaza with artillery is not a war.

Ambassadors from Brazil, El Salvador, Peru, Ecuador and Chile recalled, France and Great Britain will do the same shortly
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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There is always collateral damage in war. Islamofascists just up the ante a lot more by using their civilians as shields, thus scoring some apologist media points. BBC has it that many Palestinian children also died during Hamas' tunnel construction, i.e., that child labor was utilized by them.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is always collateral damage in war. Islamofascists just up the ante a lot more by using their civilians as shields, thus scoring some apologist media points. BBC has it that many Palestinian children also died during Hamas' tunnel construction, i.e., that child labor was utilized by them.

Over 1300 killed mostly civilians killed is not collateral damage, that is a carnage.

Palestinian children killed during tunnel construction, desperate deflection.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:40 PM
 
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War is barbaric but at least follows some rules of engagement such as warning people ahead of time their area is to be bombed. Terrorism is barbaric but follows no conventional rules whatsoever with these cretins using children as shields and even cannon fodder so accusing one side only of barbarism seems disingenuous.

Pick your side.
Ridiculous people who want to blame Palestinians for Israel's atrocities. There is no proof that Hamas uses children as shields.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Unless Israel manages to dismantle Hamas, this campaign will be a long-term failure like those before it. How many times are we going to see these escalations/cease-fires that only result in the status-quo? All they do is give short term misery/results and guarantee the long term status-quo. There will be terrorism/rocket attacks originating from Gaza as long as Hamas exists. Israel needs to do something decisive. Either go in and clean the place up or absolutely **** about Hamas. Screw John Kerry and screw the UN. You are in the right here, so take care of business.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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I wonder how many German kids were killed when we were bombing those cities ?

Sometimes it's the price you pay when you start a war.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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Ridiculous people who want to blame Palestinians for Israel's atrocities. There is no proof that Hamas uses children as shields.
There's plenty of proof. You also just don't seem to understand that Israel has the right to defend herself as a sovereign state. Hamas, and most in the region, don't think Israel should even exist. If Hamas declared "We will fight no more", there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel said same, she would be annihilated.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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Over 1300 killed mostly civilians killed is not collateral damage, that is a carnage.

Palestinian children killed during tunnel construction, desperate deflection.
Your opinion. Thank you. Do some reading. The tunnel child labor is documented.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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There's plenty of proof. You also just don't seem to understand that Israel has the right to defend herself as a sovereign state. Hamas, and most in the region, don't think Israel should even exist. If Hamas declared "We will fight no more", there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel said same, she would be annihilated.
Repeatedly lobbing artillery into civilian areas is not defense and it's not a war.
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