Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
This whole situation is just so ridiculous, the double standard involved in all of it. I mean it's true that evidence points to Russia being a big instigator and supporter of all of this, but who are we, the US, to point fingers and insist on harsh sanctions due to how totally unacceptable their supposed involvement in Ukraine is? Do our leaders have THAT short of a memory, they can't think back about ten years, when we completely, directly invaded another country (Iraq), and overthrew their government? That is even more involvement than Russia has in Ukraine right now of course, so with that logic we should have had every sanction possible put against us. Our leadership should be down right embarrassed over that- how do they expect anyone to take them seriously??
It's like a kid in school beating someone up and stealing their lunch money, and then when they see someone else do that to someone the next day, they run to get a teacher and demand that kid be punished for doing something so terrible.
This is about the dollar.
What we're witnessing is the slow death of the dollar. The elite will do ANYTHING to prevent that, including risking blowing us all to smithereens in a nuclear war. And they have Jim Jones at the helm.
Facts are something that real and proved.
But all the "facts" about shot downing the malaysian plane by pro-russian rebels are allegations and BS from MSM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ambient
I'd be fascinated to hear about what a good guy Putin is and what happened with that airplane.
By winter, Germany, Ukraine, and Russia will peacefully resolve this U.S. instigated problem, and do it without the U.S. - and their lackey Brits, Poles, Latvians, etc. will be left looking like fools clamoring for a proxy war that no one but they want.
By winter, Germany, Ukraine, and Russia will peacefully resolve this U.S. instigated problem, and do it without the U.S. - and their lackey Brits, Poles, Latvians, etc. will be left looking like fools clamoring for a proxy war that no one but they want.
Keep dreaming, but there is no U.S instigated, Ukrainians voted to elect a pro EU president, fools need to understand that Ukraine wants to move West. It is not Russia's place to decided and hold the country hostage. Putin is playing with fire, he and his country are going down a dangerous road, but this midget and his oversized ego will never get it until it is too late.
Russia is acting like a creep who does not take "NO" for an answer.
People who still think Putin is a good guy standing up to the West are imbeciles-plain and simple.
Keep dreaming, but there is no U.S instigated, Ukrainians voted to elect a pro EU president, fools need to understand that Ukraine wants to move West. It is not Russia's place to decided and hold the country hostage. Putin is playing with fire, he and his country are going down a dangerous road, but this midget and his oversized ego will never get it until it is too late.
Russia is acting like a creep who does not take "NO" for an answer.
People who still think Putin is a good guy standing up to the West are imbeciles-plain and simple.
I don't think Putin is a good guy; I don't think Obama is a good guy, either. He is standing up to the U.S., which is doing its best to spread disinformation and propaganda. But the problem for America is that most of the people swayed by the propaganda are native English speakers (and ever-hostile Poles), so once the situation is resolved to everyone else's satisfaction, U.S. influence will have waned even further and others will feel more emboldened to part ways and distance themselves from the world's most incorrigible rogue state.
Keep dreaming, but there is no U.S instigated, Ukrainians voted to elect a pro EU president...
Another victim of the western brainwashing propaganda! The US is meddling across the world including Ukraine.
Here are some articles and videos especially for you :
In term of the murder of Alexander Litvinenko there is to be a full public inquest reviewing the case and evidence of Scotland Yard detectives and a host of other experts.
Can you turn on your logic to work?
If you claim that the fact is Litvinenko was murdered by russians because Sctland Yard allegedly confirmed it, then why they renew the investigation?
The answer is easy - they could NOT prove it and this is not a fact.
So, as we can see, all your "facts" have the same BS value. Sorry.
If I was Putin, I would use the sanctions as an excuse to take over Ukraine...
Very good. this was the reason that a Japanese Prime Minister named Togo used to take the Japanese Empire to war against Britain and The United States of America which had imposed tuff economic sanctions like an embargo of oil, steel, rubber and explosives .on The Japanese in July 1941. I guess great minds think alike.
Gen Togo former Japanese Prime Minister was executed for war crimes in 1948 after being tried by an American Military Tribunal.
Can you turn on your logic to work?
If you claim that the fact is Litvinenko was murdered by russians because Sctland Yard allegedly confirmed it, then why they renew the investigation?
The answer is easy - they could NOT prove it and this is not a fact.
So, as we can see, all your "facts" have the same BS value. Sorry.
They are not renewing the investigation, they are holding a public inquiry which will look at the facts including Scotland Yards investigation, forensics experts, intelligence reports and a raft of other evidence.
It's primary aim is to examine the full picture and to try to stop polonium-210 ever being bought on to the streets of London again, whilst it may also deal with such matters as if the police and security services could have done more to protect Mr Litvinenko, a man who had crossed swords with Mr Putin in the past and like many people who have cross swords with Putin such as Anna Politkovskaya for instance, he ended up being assassinated.
The main aim of the inquiry will be to ensure this never happens again.
Although I am quite sure the Security Service (MI5) and SIS (MI6) have expanded their intelligence and Surveillance in relation to Russian Embassy staff and certain Russian figures in the UK following Mr Litvinenko's poisoning.
Why the hell should we put up with the Russian Authorities carrying out murders using radioactive materials on our streets.
The yard had lots of evidence, they new Mr Litvinenko movements via CCTV and even followed a radiation trial across London, and it was found that Mr Litvinenko was poisoned by drinking tea containing polonium 210 at the Pine Bar of the Millennium Hotel in Grosvenor Square in London where he met with two men, one of which was Dmitry Kovtun and the other Andrei Lugovoi, a friend of Putin's is the Chief Suspect in the Murder who is wanted by Scotland Yard.
If Mr Lugovoi ever enters an EU or any other country with an extradition treaty with the UK he will be arrested. It should also be noted that if Andrei Lugovoi is so innocent then why doesn't he come across to the UK and clear his name rather than hide away. As a reward for his actions Mr Lugovoi is now a Russian Member of Parliament (the Duma) and remains a close friend and ally of Putin.
If Russia wants another cold war and to become an international pariah then that's fine just keep on going down the same path and see what happens, the difference being you are not the Soviet Union anymore and don't have the Warsaw Pact to back you up.
Last edited by Bamford; 08-01-2014 at 03:33 AM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
