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Old 08-02-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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There was the little matter of Russia's besties killing 200 Europeans because they couldn't be arsed to do target recognition when playing with the new toy Uncle Pooty had given them.
I haven't seen the evidence for that. And neither have you.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Thousands of germans revolt against lying brainwashing western MSM (propaganda) and stand up for friendfhip with Russia.
(The video is in german but who speaks german will easily confirm this)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOpx208cO5c
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Germany is waking up. Good for them.
Thanks for posting.

More and more are waking up to the insane power grab of the corrupt elite leading America and the EU to ruin.

The interests of the middle classes on both continents depend on this realization. When that happens, we can overwhelm their propaganda and oppressive institutions and take our countries back.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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I haven't seen the evidence for that. And neither have you.
Please, don't argue with brainwashed fanatics. They know that russians are bad guys anyway.
Be magnanimous - don' try to break their world of numerous distorted cliches and stamps. Because it would be very painful for their peace of mind. Just let them serenely sleep in their world of lies.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Yeah, wouldn't be the first time someone called for peace in the region while actually trying to get a piece of the region.

For example, the peace Germany and the USSR brought to Poland in late October 1939. The peace of gentle breezes blowing in the silent streets of a ruined Warsaw.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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Thanks for posting.

More and more are waking up to the insane power grab of the corrupt elite leading America and the EU to ruin.

The interests of the middle classes on both continents depend on this realization. When that happens, we can overwhelm their propaganda and oppressive institutions and take our countries back.
I liked one comment by Jack to the video :
- Without going into all the political detail that this speech invokes, I think it's incredibly sad that Dr. Wagenknecht advises Germany and all Europe to abandon its relationship with American "war politics". And since Europe is in the same situation as we; i.e. the corporations against the people, there doesn't seem to be much of a way around a world-wide, and probably very bloody, civil war. If we don't change something, all the post-apocalyptic horror of many of the current movies, will be coming true...

Yeah, it is sad to hear it, but it's very good to see that some people understand the situation clearly, not like those "patriots" who thoughtlessly parrots the western media BS.
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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I liked one comment by Jack to the video :
- Without going into all the political detail that this speech invokes, I think it's incredibly sad that Dr. Wagenknecht advises Germany and all Europe to abandon its relationship with American "war politics". And since Europe is in the same situation as we; i.e. the corporations against the people, there doesn't seem to be much of a way around a world-wide, and probably very bloody, civil war. If we don't change something, all the post-apocalyptic horror of many of the current movies, will be coming true...

Yeah, it is sad to hear it, but it's very good to see that some people understand the situation clearly, not like those "patriots" who thoughtlessly parrots the western media BS.
I wouldn't characterize what's coming as a 'civil war'.

It will be a collapse of the financial system. Those who were suckered into depending on government spending will have to adapt or die. Many will die as they are unable to think for themselves to see a way forward.

The desperation of the elite has been showing since 2008. We don't yet know what they will be willing to do to act out this desperation.

Their willingness to risk nuclear war lately gives you a hint.
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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I wouldn't characterize what's coming as a 'civil war'.

It will be a collapse of the financial system. Those who were suckered into depending on government spending will have to adapt or die. Many will die as they are unable to think for themselves to see a way forward.

The desperation of the elite has been showing since 2008. We don't yet know what they will be willing to do to act out this desperation.
Their willingness to risk nuclear war lately gives you a hint.
Agreed.
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Old 08-02-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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Germany is waking up. Good for them!
One more good video from Germany. German nation is really going up.
The chief-editor of the Compact magazine Jürgen Elsässer says truth about the WH crimes in Ukraine. He proved that USA is a main instigator of the ukrainian crisis. And people applause him.
Only a blind and narrow-minded person would say that this is propaganda.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzrM...ature=youtu.be
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I haven't seen the evidence for that. And neither have you.

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Despite the bizarre attempts by separatists to absolve themselves of responsibility for the senseless loss of life aboard MH17 and the rhetoric from the Kremlin seemingly blaming everyone else for this tragedy the reality of this conflict is that training, weapons, and advice come across the border to sustain the separatists, a flow that Russia chooses not to inhibit. President Putin has it in his gift to end this conflict, destruction of property, and loss of life by withdrawing materiel and personnel, and strangling the supply lines supporting the separatist fighters.

Downing Flight MH17: Will the Europeans Get Tougher on Russia? - RUSI

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Given Putin’s past record, it’s much more likely that he will just decide to brazen out this crisis by pretending that it has nothing to do with him. Yet, try as hard as he may, there is no escape from the conclusion that the supposed master-tactician in the Kremlin has now ended up shooting himself in the foot, that a Ukraine crisis which Putin thought he could control is now escalating in ways he never imagined.

The Downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17: Russia in the Dock - RUSI


BBC News - Malaysia jet MH17 'horror', Cameron's 'infamous' high-five and 'hypocrite' Clegg



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