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Are you stating that the UN was surprised at our invasion? Odd considering that there are dozens of countries that joined us.
Please point out the UN resolutions condemning our invasion.. I've looked, dont see them.
I have accurately stated, in light of assertions of the contrary, that there was no UN authority extended for the US invasion of Iraq. This was a unilateral pre-emptive invasion launched without meeting the established international standards. The perpetrators of this invasion may or may not subsequently face international war crimes trials over it.
I would meanwhile doubt very much that many at the UN could have been surprised at anything George Bush might have done after the disgraceful dog-and-pony show that he sent Colin Powell up there to do, not to mention the constant sniping and attempts to discredit the work of Hans Blix and UNMOVIC, a group that was well on its way to demonstrating that an invasion of Iraq was not so much as marginally justified.
It would in any case be very difficult for the Security Council to pass a resolution condemning the United States, as the US is a permanent member of that body and holds a veto power over any of its actions.
I have accurately stated, in light of assertions of the contrary, that there was no UN authority extended for the US invasion of Iraq. This was a unilateral pre-emptive invasion launched without meeting the established international standards. The perpetrators of this invasion may or may not subsequently face international war crimes trials over it.
I would meanwhile doubt very much that many at the UN could have been surprised at anything George Bush might have done after the disgraceful dog-and-pony show that he sent Colin Powell up there to do, not to mention the constant sniping and attempts to discredit the work of Hans Blix and UNMOVIC, a group that was well on its way to demonstrating that an invasion of Iraq was not so much as marginally justified.
It would in any case be very difficult for the Security Council to pass a resolution condemning the United States, as the US is a permanent member of that body and holds a veto power over any of its actions.
It woudlnt be very difficult for the UN to condemn a non binding resolution but they chose not to.. Even better, they chose to send 3+ dozen countries in to help us.. Doesnt sound like the UN was very upset over our invasion at all.
It would in any case be very difficult for the Security Council to pass a resolution condemning the United States, as the US is a permanent member of that body and holds a veto power over any of its actions.
Actually it wasnt till my 6th and 7th posting here that I mentioned Clinton, and only then did I mention him as a matter of FACT to dispute the previous posters accusations on Bush, when Clinton did the exact same thing.
Which "exact same thing" did Clinton do again? You didn't really clarify earlier...
I find it hard to believe that the "president" would be stupid enough to authorize or order the destruction of a tape, that the world knew existed.
The world knew existed? Bush says he never heard of the tapes until Dec 6, 2007. The tapes were (deliberately) destroyed in November 2005, right after the Washington Post blew the cover on the 'black sites' secret prisons, which is where the tapes were made. How did the world end up knowing about something two years before Bush did?
The world knew existed? Bush says he never heard of the tapes until Dec 6, 2007. The tapes were (deliberately) destroyed in November 2005, right after the Washington Post blew the cover on the 'black sites' secret prisons, which is where the tapes were made. How did the world end up knowing about something two years before Bush did?
The world knew existed? Bush says he never heard of the tapes until Dec 6, 2007. The tapes were (deliberately) destroyed in November 2005, right after the Washington Post blew the cover on the 'black sites' secret prisons, which is where the tapes were made. How did the world end up knowing about something two years before Bush did?
It doesnt take brain scientists to know that the CIA video tapes their interrogations because even at the local level interrogations are all video taped because they become a matter of evidence when you put an individual on trial.
Even Hayden acknowledged that the tapers were used to document how CIA officers were using new questioning techniques approved by the White House at the time, which forced recalcitrant prisoners to talk.
Its also a matter of CIA policy (per Hayden) to video tape all interrogations, why would this one be any different then any other interrogation? (which started this whole debate because someone requested a copy of the tapes, after finding out it was "policy" to record them all)
It woudlnt be very difficult for the UN to condemn a non binding resolution but they chose not to..
That's true. The General Assembly could have passed a non-binding resolution condemning the US invasion, but the General Assembly normally deals with internal matters only.
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Even better, they chose to send 3+ dozen countries in to help us.
No, the UN didn't send anybody. At the request of the Interim Government of Iraq, the UN authorized the operations of the MNF, which is itself run by the US. The US put the "Coalition of the Willing" together, often by means of bribery. The troops of exactly four "Coalition Partners" have had orders that allow them to engage in any hostile action whatsoever -- the US, the UK, Australia, and Poland. The rest just stay home all day.
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Doesnt sound like the UN was very upset over our invasion at all.
That's right...the invasion was very popular all over the world, and has made countless new friends for America.
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