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Feminists champion equal rights for both genders but when Stephen A. Smith said that women shouldn't provoke men into hitting them, feminists were in an uproar and did not condone what he said. All he was basically saying was that women should try and do their best to not escalate a heated situation. He never said that men shouldn't be held accountable for hitting a woman but rather both genders doing their part to avoid domestic violence. Since feminism is all about equal gender rights, why didn't the majority of feminists defend Stephen A. Smith's comments?
So, if a husband/boyfriend is screaming into a woman's face, calling her names, etc., or threatening her, she should just stand down and try to placate the idiot? You do realize, right, that if a guy wants to abuse his wife/girlfriend, NOTHING she says or doesn't say; NOTHING she does or doesn't do will prevent him from abusing her.
A man has the right to lose control of his emotions, but a woman does not?
In other words, it's OK for a guy to lose his temper, but not OK for a woman to do the same?
So, if a husband/boyfriend is screaming into a woman's face, calling her names, etc., or threatening her, she should just stand down and try to placate the idiot? You do realize, right, that if a guy wants to abuse his wife/girlfriend, NOTHING she says or doesn't say; NOTHING she does or doesn't do will prevent him from abusing her.
Are you seriously tying to say that attempting to make the situation less bad is a bad thing? What sane woman wouldn't try to make their husband/boyfriend less mad in a situation like that? In fact, what sane person wouldn't try to make the angry person less mad in that situation?
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A man has the right to lose control of his emotions, but a woman does not?
In other words, it's OK for a guy to lose his temper, but not OK for a woman to do the same?
Cute...
Rights have absolutely nothing to do with this. Far too often the word 'rights' is thrown around, and we use it so much that it undermines the value of what a right is.
By the way, when did losing temper become a right? It's not a designated right for anyone. Everyone can do it; that doesn't mean they should.
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That's sick. And backward.
Who could defend what he said?
Someone who actually supports gender equality maybe? I tend to support the core values of the feminist movement, and with that in mind, I feel a woman has a right to willingly leave an abusive relationship. We need to start teaching young girls that they have no obligation whatsoever to serve men, especially men who treat them poorly. This will become something of common knowledge and avoiding and leaving abusive relationships will become easier.
And as I said, a woman who can calm a man down is smart. Why get mad? Who does that help?
So, if a husband/boyfriend is screaming into a woman's face, calling her names, etc., or threatening her, she should just stand down and try to placate the idiot? You do realize, right, that if a guy wants to abuse his wife/girlfriend, NOTHING she says or doesn't say; NOTHING she does or doesn't do will prevent him from abusing her.
Not every situation is the same but there are situations in which women are the provokers and sometimes they even hit the man first because they believe they can get away with it because they assume that the guy won't hit them back. What women in these situations fail to realize is that they can't just assume every guy won't hit them if the woman punches them first. Not every guy has good morals.
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A man has the right to lose control of his emotions, but a woman does not?
I never said that men aren't to be held accountable as well and neither did Stephen A. Smith.
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In other words, it's OK for a guy to lose his temper, but not OK for a woman to do the same?
If a man hits a woman than he should be arrested but a women also shouldn't hit a men either. What's wrong with that? Believing that it is okay for a women to hit a man but a man not to hit a women is a double standard and goes against gender equality. Both men and women should not be hitting each other.
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That's sick. And backward.
Who could defend what he said?
If people actually listened to everything he said, nothing he said was wrong.
You do realize, right, that if a guy wants to abuse his wife/girlfriend, NOTHING she says or doesn't say; NOTHING she does or doesn't do will prevent him from abusing her.
That's when the wife or girlfriend calls the cops or leaves the relationship through separation or divorce. That's what a rational woman would do in that situation.
Neither one of you have any personal knowledge of domestic abuse, so I will refrain from commenting.
1) You don't know that. How could you possibly know that? In fact, how do we know you do have any knowledge on the subject. The Internet is anonymous, and for all I know, you know far less than I do.
2) That's a copout. This is simply saying that women have the ability to keep themselves safe (which is far more empowering for women, isn't it?). It's not saying men shouldn't be held accountable for the actions. You just don't like this because it's not mainstream feminism. It's a version of feminism that believes women are more than capable of handling serious problems, and any reason that would suggest they can't is because that's how we were told it was up until fairly recently.
Are you seriously tying to say that attempting to make the situation less bad is a bad thing? What sane woman wouldn't try to make their husband/boyfriend less mad in a situation like that? In fact, what sane person wouldn't try to make the angry person less mad in that situation?
Have you ever witnessed a couple having an argument? They both have a right to get mad, you know. For all we know, the woman may be the wronged part.
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And as I said, a woman who can calm a man down is smart. Why get mad? Who does that help?
You're shifting responsibility from the person who might get violent to the person who might become a victim. It's rather unbecoming.
"She shouldn't have provoked me" has been the excuse of pretty much any wife-beater, ever, and anyone giving that as much as one iota of credibility deserves the scorn heaped on his head.
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