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I wonder if McCain goes home at night and considers becoming a independent. Hes a old school Republican, and when not following the party line and speaking from his personal beliefs he has impressed me a lot.
He and Lieberman should have run in 2008 on a 3rd party ticket. They would not have won, but they would have beat Perot's 1992 vote total and gotten Electoral votes, truly shaking up the 2 party system..for good.
Article 3, Geneva convention bars torture.
In HAMDAN v. RUMSFELD the SCOTUS ruled that the US did have to abide by international treaties such as the Geneva convention.
And when was the last time one of our enemies ALSO abided by the Geneva Convention?
Japan, Germany Viet Nam, North Korea, Al Qaeda, the Taliban?
If you want to find out what torture REALLY is, read up on what these people did.
You know for party so that loves to talk about protecting Christian values, it's hard to take that seriously when you have to explain why torture is wrong.
you know, for a party that loves to talk about being the "party of black people," it's hard to take them seriously when they vote for bills that treat blacks like they don't know how to function in society.
Maybe you also want to read this article, it is an interesting read
"Here's why waterboarding is not torture:
Do you know the U.S. military waterboards hundreds of our own soldiers every year? It is part of the conditioning Special Forces troops undergo to prepare for battle and the possibility of capture by the enemy. In other words, it's OK for us to do this to America's best and brightest, but it's too horrible for our worst enemies? Does this make sense to anyone?
Many Americans are simply confused about the real definition of torture. Because so little sacrifice is required of most Americans today and because so few have experienced combat, they equate momentary discomfort or fear with torture. They are not the same.
My definition of torture is simple: It involves physical or mental abuse that leaves lasting scars. Cutting off fingers, toes, limbs — that would be torture. Forcing prisoners to play Russian roulette — that would be torture. Sticking hot pokers in the eyes of prisoners — that would be torture.
But a few seconds of dripping water on a prisoner's face? That's not torture to me."
My definition of torture is simple: It involves physical or mental abuse that leaves lasting scars. Cutting off fingers, toes, limbs — that would be torture. Forcing prisoners to play Russian roulette — that would be torture. Sticking hot pokers in the eyes of prisoners — that would be torture.
But a few seconds of dripping water on a prisoner's face? That's not torture to me.
An electrode up the vagina doesn't leave lasting scars. I'd still call it torture.
Then again, that's Joseph Farah's opinion, and if I ever found myself agreeing with the Chief Carnival Barker of the Birther movement, I'd be seriously worried.
An electrode up the vagina doesn't leave lasting scars. I'd still call it torture.
Then again, that's Joseph Farah's opinion, and if I ever found myself agreeing with the Chief Carnival Barker of the Birther movement, I'd be seriously worried.
Do you call water boarding torture though? Do you call using the dogs to scare the prisoners torture also?
Nobody is talking about an electrode up the vagina or up the ass. Do U.S. do that to the prisoners? sheesh
My brother went through SERE training (He was NOT a SEAL, he was a force recon Marine) If he can go through all those ****, that doesn't make any sense that these detainees cannot tolerate water boarding.
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