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Old 08-14-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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The Palestinians didn't even exist before 1948.
It doesn't matter who they were or what, even if you were right.

What does that even have to do with anything?? They were kicked off their land then israel occupied the only sliver of it in 1967. Former Palestinian towns are now ruins layered over by israeli towns. That's colonialism.

I don't get your logic. So if they weren't Palestinians, which I disagree, then that means the Israelis had the right to forcibly remove them off their land, occupy the rest and then build settlements on it?

Gimme a break.

 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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It doesn't matter who they were or what, even if you were right.

What does that even have to do with anything?? They were kicked off their land then israel occupied the only sliver of it in 1967. Former Palestinian towns are now ruins layered over by israeli towns. That's colonialism.

I don't get your logic. So if they weren't Palestinians, which I disagree, then that means the Israelis had the right to forcibly remove them off their land, occupy the rest and then build settlements on it?

Gimme a break.
Sorry, but you're out right lying and you know it. Israel did not kick anyone off their land. Stop lying.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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Sorry, but you're out right lying and you know it. Israel did not kick anyone off their land. Stop lying.
Explain why I'm lying then, don't just throw out ad hominens. Israel forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes during 1948. That is a historical fact even israeli historians agree on.

So please stop with the accusations and debate.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Explain why I'm lying then, don't just throw out ad hominens. Israel forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes during 1948. That is a historical fact even israeli historians agree on.

So please stop with the accusations and debate.
The Arabs in Palestine were asked to stay and live as citizens in the Jewish state. Instead, they chose to leave (either because they were unwilling to live with the Jews, or because they expected an Arab military victory which would annihilate the Zionists). Many chose to stay, and today a significant percentage of Israel is Arab... unlike in Arab nations where Jews have been shunned and killed to almost extinction. There is not once shred of evidence that the Israel government forced anyone out of their home at any time because they didn't.

Those are the facts, my friend.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Explain why I'm lying then, don't just throw out ad hominens. Israel forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes during 1948. That is a historical fact even israeli historians agree on.

So please stop with the accusations and debate.
There's more to it.

History & Overview of the Palestinian Refugees | Jewish Virtual Library
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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Wrong. The Arabs rejected the partition plan then the state of Israel and rebelled, they were met with force by the Israelis and this promoted a response from the neighboring Arab countries. In the ensuing war hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced. Some stayed yes but many more were expelled.

You can come up with whatever ultra Zionist version of history you guys want but for the most part the standard historical narrative from reputable scholars is that the Pakestinians were expelled.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Why do you types insist that Arabs and Palestinians just inherently hated the Jews and that's why there was so much turmoil at the birth of the state of Israel? The whole reason for the fighting was because of the unfair advantage a minority received over the majority in the area. No sensible group of people would've accepted any of the deals on the table or to have a state built on top of their land.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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The Arabs in Palestine were asked to stay and live as citizens in the Jewish state. Instead, they chose to leave (either because they were unwilling to live with the Jews, or because they expected an Arab military victory which would annihilate the Zionists). Many chose to stay, and today a significant percentage of Israel is Arab... unlike in Arab nations where Jews have been shunned and killed to almost extinction. There is not once shred of evidence that the Israel government forced anyone out of their home at any time because they didn't.

Those are the facts, my friend.
Nope, those aren't "facts", those are lies. Jews generally believe that they (and only they) are entitled to that land. That's why they continue to build illegal settlements on the West Bank, which is Palestinian land NOT Israeli. This video is a good start for those who are unaware of what really goes on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emLCYB9j8c
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Wrong. The Arabs rejected the partition plan then the state of Israel and rebelled, they were met with force by the Israelis and this promoted a response from the neighboring Arab countries. In the ensuing war hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced. Some stayed yes but many more were expelled.

You can come up with whatever ultra Zionist version of history you guys want but for the most part the standard historical narrative from reputable scholars is that the Pakestinians were expelled.
ahhh...the Nazi-liberals with their new spindoctored word.....Zionist
 
Old 08-14-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Why do you types insist that Arabs and Palestinians just inherently hated the Jews and that's why there was so much turmoil at the birth of the state of Israel?
Because they always have... long before the rebirth of Israel. It is written right in the Qu'ran and the Hadeth. "O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."

It is weird how no one ever says that Westboro Baptists hate gays because someone was oppressing the poor WBs, but they use this line or reasoning when apologizing for the wrongs of Islamic Fundamentalists.
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